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re: If JR comes back in 2007 and we win the Title

Posted on 7/1/09 at 3:33 pm to
Posted by Rocket
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Posted on 7/1/09 at 3:33 pm to
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all I'm tryin to say to people is that the defensive football Saban employs is better than Pelini's


Pelini's first 2 defenses at LSU allowed fewer points than many of Saban's defensive units.
This post was edited on 7/1/09 at 3:34 pm
Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
Member since Jun 2005
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Posted on 7/1/09 at 3:47 pm to
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I dunno, if he sported that BAMA chain on national TV a year after leaving LSU I'd still have the same--low--opinion of him.


you mean he was supporting his friends record label named Bama Boy
Posted by Rocket
Member since Mar 2004
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Posted on 7/1/09 at 4:01 pm to
Is that the name of a Record label? I thought it was just a rapper.

I'm jamming some Bama Boy right now

LINK

White folks get crunk
Posted by Hardwood Tiger
Twin Cities
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 7/1/09 at 4:02 pm to
How many of you idiots who dislike JR remember that we did finish #2 in the country behind FL? It put us in a position to be ranked extremely high and with a set back or TWO allowed us to rebound late with the help of Pitt to play for the Championship!! For that you idiots continue to bash on one of the top 2 or 3 QBS to ever play at LSU! What a bunch of idiots!!!!!1
Posted by mlttiger
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 7/1/09 at 4:14 pm to
IDK if we create another JR thread will it go 10+ pages like this is destined for??
Posted by tubucoco
las vegas, nevada
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 7/1/09 at 5:41 pm to
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Pelini's first 2 defenses at LSU allowed fewer points than many of Saban's defensive units.
I would hope so, Pelini inherited a much differnt program than Saban, but if your tryin to say Pelini's defense was just as effective as Saban's, no way, give me Saban's attack style defense anyday.
Posted by tubucoco
las vegas, nevada
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 7/1/09 at 5:47 pm to
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we had 4 drives ended by terrible calls from the officials against a great defense
I know they were terrible calls in that game, I saw them, but you can't blame everything on the officiating. JR's sudden ineffectiveness against a average Auburn defense baffled me becaust the first 2 games he put up ridiculous numbers in blowouts, so I expected him to really put it on Auburn. Auburn D was not great, it was proved as the rest of the year progressed.
This post was edited on 7/1/09 at 5:49 pm
Posted by Rocket
Member since Mar 2004
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Posted on 7/1/09 at 5:53 pm to
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I would hope so, Pelini inherited a much differnt program than Saban, but if your tryin to say Pelini's defense was just as effective as Saban's, no way, give me Saban's attack style defense anyday.


You only care about scheme. I care about results and points. You don't. Yes, I am saying Pelini's defense could be just as effective as Saban's.

I think you may be a tad bit biased. You're basically saying when Saban's units perform well, it's because of his scheme. When Pelini's defense allows fewer points than a Saban squad, it's only because he had good athletes to coach.

If Pelini's philosophy and scheme were so inferior, we wouldn't have had the results in 2005 and 2006 that we did.
Posted by Rocket
Member since Mar 2004
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Posted on 7/1/09 at 5:56 pm to
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JR's sudden ineffectiveness against a average Auburn defense baffled me becaust the first 2 games he put up ridiculous numbers in blowouts, so I expected him to really put it on Auburn. Auburn D was not great, it was proved as the rest of the year progressed.


Auburn's defense allowed just 181 points on the year and only around 13 points/game. That's better than many of Saban's defenses.

Posted by tubucoco
las vegas, nevada
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 7/1/09 at 5:59 pm to
I'll take Saban's scheme any day over Pelini's, that is the bottom line for me. I've said before Pelini's numbers on defense are inflated anyway because his teams shut down inferior opponents like MTSU's, but when they played against big time opponents like the UF's, Kentuckys, Arkansas or Auburn's they stuggled to stop them.
This post was edited on 7/1/09 at 6:00 pm
Posted by tubucoco
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Posted on 7/1/09 at 6:01 pm to
Auburn's defense was not great that year man, frick, they got blown out by a couple of teams. argue all you want, your the one that's biased because your too damn stubborn to admit that Pelini's scheme sucked.
This post was edited on 7/1/09 at 6:02 pm
Posted by Rocket
Member since Mar 2004
61117 posts
Posted on 7/1/09 at 6:01 pm to
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I'll take Saban's scheme any day over Pelini's, that is the bottom line for me


We know why. Because points/results don't matter to you.

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I've said before Pelini's numbers on the defensr are inflated anyway because his teams shut down inferior opponents like MTSU's, but when they played against big time opponents like the UF's, Kentuckys, Arkansas or Auburn's they stuggled to stop them.


Why can't Saban's defenses do the same?
Posted by BhamTigah
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Posted on 7/1/09 at 6:01 pm to
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JR's sudden ineffectiveness against a average Auburn defense baffled me


The offensive playcalling had more impact on that game than JR's ineffectiveness. Saban and Jimbo insisted on trying to establish the running game despite the fact that Auburn was stacking the box. That fact would be more forgivable if we didn't have at least 3 first rounders involved in our passing game.
Posted by Rocket
Member since Mar 2004
61117 posts
Posted on 7/1/09 at 6:02 pm to
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Auburn's defense was not great that year man, frick, they got blown out by a couple of teams.


They were better than many of Saban's defenses. If you allow 13 points/game, you have a pretty solid defense.

Of course, points/results don't matter to you.
Posted by tubucoco
las vegas, nevada
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 7/1/09 at 6:07 pm to
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Of course, points/results don't matter to you.
Kentucky scoring 40+
Arkansas scoring 30+
Auburn scoring 30+
UF scoring 30+
scoring points and results, right?
This post was edited on 7/1/09 at 6:09 pm
Posted by tubucoco
las vegas, nevada
Member since Oct 2007
32994 posts
Posted on 7/1/09 at 6:10 pm to
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Saban and Jimbo insisted on trying to establish the running game despite fact Auburn was stacking the box.
true, but JR missed some wide open receivers.
Posted by cepheid
kenner, la
Member since Feb 2007
1638 posts
Posted on 7/1/09 at 6:11 pm to
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If JR comes back in 2007 and we win the Title
does a large segment of LSU fans continue to dislike him


i don't want to read 10 pages of such a stupid question, but i do read this forum fairly regularly and havent seen where LSU fans dislike or ever disliked JR, much less a large segment of them. What is this question even based on?
Posted by Rocket
Member since Mar 2004
61117 posts
Posted on 7/1/09 at 6:12 pm to
Iowa 30
Georgia 40+
Texas 30+
Alabama 30
Auburn 30+
Kentucky 30
Florida 40+
Ole miss 30+
Arkansas 30+
Illinois 30+
Auburn 30+
Tennessee 30 +
Miss. State 30+
Posted by TheDoc
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Member since Dec 2005
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Posted on 7/1/09 at 6:12 pm to


Posted by tubucoco
las vegas, nevada
Member since Oct 2007
32994 posts
Posted on 7/1/09 at 6:15 pm to
well let's see UF 50+ and UGA 50+ those 2 clowns were employing his scheme, seemed like only a matter of time anyway before the dam broke.
This post was edited on 7/1/09 at 6:17 pm
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