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re: If JR comes back in 2007 and we win the Title

Posted on 7/1/09 at 10:12 am to
Posted by tubucoco
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Posted on 7/1/09 at 10:12 am to
so Bama had LSU caliber athlete's in '07 when they played Arky?

and that other post about Mauck is not me, that is someone else.
This post was edited on 7/1/09 at 10:14 am
Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
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Posted on 7/1/09 at 10:18 am to
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I'm not talkin about what happened in 2002, I know Kentucky's QB what's his name doesn't sit in the pocket all day like he did against Pelini's D or McFadden run all over the place from the "wildcat" like he did against them.


did you watch the Kentucky game? They used rollouts to kill us all game. We also lost our Jackson and Zenon to injury during the game helping our D fall apart
Posted by Tiger Voodoo
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Posted on 7/1/09 at 10:19 am to
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so Bama had LSU caliber athlete's in '07 when they played Arky?



Of course not, but his scheme didn't do anything to even slow them down. That Bama D wasn't totally devoid of talent, and LSU's talent in that 07 game was severely limited due to injury and fatigue as well.


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and that other post about Mauck is not me, that is someone else.



Yeah, I was responding to TigerBait's post. Just put them under one reply. Didn't mean for that to be directed at you.
Posted by Tiger Voodoo
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Posted on 7/1/09 at 10:20 am to
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did you watch the Kentucky game? They used rollouts to kill us all game. We also lost our Jackson and Zenon to injury during the game helping our D fall apart




Steltz too. I think his neck is still longer than it was before that blindside.
Posted by Jaydeaux
Covington
Member since May 2005
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Posted on 7/1/09 at 10:21 am to
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In reality MF was a big reason we lost to Kent


Yeah, cause he dropped that TD pass that he threw to himself. You know the one, right in his hands, dropped.

Posted by ShermanTxTiger
Broussard, La
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 7/1/09 at 10:21 am to
I liked JR.

Most LSU fans who have a brain would feel the same. He played for LSU and was responsible for a great deal of our success.

JR= Best throwing QB LSU has had in the last 15-20 years.

Let it go.
Posted by Tiger Voodoo
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Posted on 7/1/09 at 10:26 am to
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In reality MF was a big reason we lost to Kent




Yeah, cause he dropped that TD pass that he threw to himself. You know the one, right in his hands, dropped.



Posted by tubucoco
las vegas, nevada
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Posted on 7/1/09 at 10:28 am to
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That Bama D wasn't totally devoid of talent, and LSU's talent in that 07 game was severly limited due to injury and fatique as well.
you and 1127 sound alike, excuses, excuses, no Bama's D wasn't totally devoid of talent, but they still beat Arkansas unlike LSU.

with the rollout thing 1127 is talkin about, Saban's style of defense doesn't allow you time to do that shite, not with blitzes comin in from all over the place, you have to make a fast decision or get sacked, plain and simple.

the injury and fatique factor, LSU is a powerhouse school loaded with talent, so I'm not byeing that either, if anything I thought Pelini overused Dorsey and hurt his career.
Posted by I-59 Tiger
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Posted on 7/1/09 at 10:31 am to
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Saban's style of defense doesn't allow you time to do that shite, not with blitzes comin in from all over the place, you have to make a fast decision or get sacked, plain and simple.


I guess David Greene made a bunch of 'good' fast decisions in 2004.
Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
Member since Jun 2005
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Posted on 7/1/09 at 10:33 am to
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Dude, I'm one of the biggest JR fans on this board. He's the best QB LSU has ever had, but these comments are just silly. Our passing game was great in 03. Clayton, Devery, and Skyler would not have had the years they had without Mauck's great play. He had as many TDs as JR did in 06. And Flynn didn't lose to two bad teams. LSU did. And Flynn did everything he had to to win those games. Both of those losses were on the D.


Mauck played terrible in most of our big games. We beat Georgia, Ole Miss, and OU inspite of Mauck. He's a great leader, but he didn't play very well.

and i wasn't knocking either one of them
Posted by Tiger Voodoo
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Posted on 7/1/09 at 10:38 am to
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you and 1127 sound alike, excuses, excuses, no Bama's D wasn't totally devoid of talent, but they still beat Arkansas unlike LSU.




Dude, when did I make excuses? All I said was Saban's D got ripped by Arky too. You said LSU had more talent, and I'm just telling you the D that was on the field that day wasn't as talented as you might think because of the injuries they were battling through.

Sure the scheme still sucked and we played terribly. No excuses. I was a huge critic of Pelini's D down the stretch. But Saban's scheme wouldn't have been as effective either with the condition of the team at that point in the season. And his "scheme" didn't look all that more effective either when he played them earlier in the season. Same talent or not.
Posted by tubucoco
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Posted on 7/1/09 at 10:40 am to
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I guess David Greene made a bunch of 'good' fast decisions in 2004.
dude bad games happen, david greene was also a 3yr starter, very experienced QB that knew what Saban D's did, factor in that it was not the same defensive cast as the year before and UGA idiots wanting revenge badly and it was a recipe for disaster.
This post was edited on 7/1/09 at 10:41 am
Posted by tubucoco
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Posted on 7/1/09 at 10:44 am to
VooDoo we cool, but that does sound like excuses to me, all I'm tryin to say to people is that the defensive football Saban employs is better than Pelini's, Saints fans will find that out this year with Williams.

but i forgot how much people hate Saban.
Posted by I-59 Tiger
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Posted on 7/1/09 at 10:47 am to
I don't hate Saban one iota. But you can't cherry-pick games a 'Saban' team would have performed better in vs a 'Miles' team without acknowledging some eggs laid by some of Saban's squads.
Posted by Tiger Voodoo
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Posted on 7/1/09 at 10:53 am to
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VooDoo we cool, but that does sound like excuses to me, all I'm tryin to say to people is that the defensive football Saban employs is better than Pelini's



Totally agree.


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Saints fans will find that out this year with Williams.






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but i forgot how much people hate Saban





I really don't hate him man. I just always try to be realistic and have some perspective. I loved Saban's Ds, but I just really have a lot of respect for that backfield of DMac, Jones, and Hillis, and they were on a mission that day. It just seemed to me like one of those days where they wouldn't be denied.
Posted by Ray Ray Rodman
Florida
Member since Mar 2005
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Posted on 7/1/09 at 10:56 am to
We would have been undefeated with JR.

BUT a large portion of racist LSU fans would still hate him as they do now.

Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
Member since Jun 2005
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Posted on 7/1/09 at 10:57 am to
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In reality MF was a big reason we lost to Kent



Yeah, cause he dropped that TD pass that he threw to himself. You know the one, right in his hands, dropped.



while i don't blame that game on Flynn, he did throw some bad passes down the stretch that helped us lose. It was a team effort, especially the D (and Miles benching Scott). The interception in the 4th turned momentum
Posted by tubucoco
las vegas, nevada
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 7/1/09 at 11:00 am to
yeah, hopefully Chavis will get them back on track with an attacking style of defense.
Posted by ATLTiger
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Posted on 7/1/09 at 11:02 am to
I doubt Saban woulda looked bad against Arky in both 06 and 07 though. We didn't seem to slow em down either time with Bo. Damn you Bo P!
Posted by tubucoco
las vegas, nevada
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 7/1/09 at 11:02 am to
IDK 1127, I know JR's talent was allworld, but I just can't help but think if he could have just put a TD on the board against Auburn in'06, it would have went a long way with me.
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