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re: If JJ performed like in 09, and so far in 10' but had 2008 defense
Posted on 9/21/10 at 9:34 am to slackster
Posted on 9/21/10 at 9:34 am to slackster
quote:Unless that is the point of the drill. . .
You cannot throw to the same spot regardless of the receiver lmfao.
What do you think was the goal of that pre-season fundamentals drill on August 11th?
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Posted on 9/21/10 at 9:35 am to Roaad
quote:
Both JJ andquote:
Lee miss on one pass each.
Lee hit the dude in both palms. Your incredible.
I must admit, I had to go through about 7-8 videos to find two where Lee was looking better, but I did not find ONE in which Lee looked worse. Most they were even, and if they were not even, Lee was better. Just sayin.
Posted on 9/21/10 at 9:35 am to ForeLSU
quote:perhaps.
.if the staff had more confidence in Jefferson, they might have called more aggressive stuff.
But what QB do we have on the roster that they can be more confident in?
Posted on 9/21/10 at 9:36 am to ForeLSU
quote:
all of them...if the staff had more confidence in Jefferson, they might have called more aggressive stuff.
So Shepard dropping a wide open pass that hits him in the hands on 3rd and 7 is Jefferson's fault?
Three straight run plays is Jefferson's fault?
Hell, even the slip screen that got batted down at the line really isn't his fault, the DL just made a good play on the ball.
The expectations we put on our QBs are ridiculous.
This post was edited on 9/21/10 at 9:37 am
Posted on 9/21/10 at 9:37 am to Antonio Moss
quote:
Hell, even the slip screen that got batted down at the line really isn't his fault, the DL just made a good play on the ball.
Shoulda been cut blocked.
Posted on 9/21/10 at 9:37 am to slackster
quote:Arm-wise they are even.
Most they were even
JJ can run, though.
Posted on 9/21/10 at 9:38 am to slackster
quote:
Shoulda been cut blocked.
And that Jefferson's fault?
It's kind of like the Vandy game. Jefferson played terrible and had a lot to criticize, but people were harping on the two throws to the flat to Shepard.
Those were the only two excusable throws. The DL was untouched and in the passing lane. Our fans expect Jefferson to throw the ball through the DL's body.
This post was edited on 9/21/10 at 9:40 am
Posted on 9/21/10 at 9:38 am to ForeLSU
quote:
WTF???!!! JJ put the ball in the same spot on every throw.
If you mean 3 inches above Terrance Tollivers shoe string, ensuring that the 5 yard slant route goes 6 yards at most instead of hitting him in stride with a lead and not making him do an gymnastic move to catch the ball then yes, I agree.
quote:
So Shepard dropping a wide open pass that hits him in the hands on 3rd and 7 is Jefferson's fault?
Yeah, he throws the ball with the nose down. Also, there's a huge differnce between the qb hitting the WR in the hands, and the WR pulling a superman to get his hands on the ball.
This post was edited on 9/21/10 at 9:40 am
Posted on 9/21/10 at 9:38 am to Lsutim3
quote:Reading is fundamental:
Oh yea I forgot. Getting 4 field goals is moving offense after your defense got 5 ints that Damn near put them in field goal range already. shite dude. Nice try though.
quote:LSU had six possessions against MSU that started outside of field goal range.
Except that he moved the offence into scoring position on five of six drives against MSU.
Jefferson moved LSU into scoring position on five of the six drives.
On all six drives, LSU got 10+ yards.
On four of the drives, LSU got 20+ yards.
On two of the drives, LSU got 50+ yards.
Posted on 9/21/10 at 9:39 am to slackster
quote:and missed on a pass.
Lee hit the dude in both palms. Your incredible.
Early camp practice videos are pretty worthless for talent evaluation. . .especially if the focus of the drill is unknown.
Posted on 9/21/10 at 9:40 am to EricB
quote:On the fade drill? Link?
If you mean 3 inches above Terrance Tollivers shoe string
But I'll play along.
What was the focus of that drill?
Posted on 9/21/10 at 9:41 am to EricB
quote:The pick 6's are what forces your playcalling to go conservative, and also flips field position as well as giving momentum to the other team. In the college game, half of the battle is momentum, you give it to the other team and bad things happen.
If JJ performed like in 09, and so far in 10' but had 2008 defense
... would we have done better or worse than 8-5 in 2008? I'd just like to remind everyone that you can feel free to add a pic 6 to the other teams score, but then plug in the numbers from 08's offensive production to make another comparison, which would be how would we have done last year with Lee's 08 performance and our 09 defense.
The premise that you are trying to make that just because LSU offense would put up big numbers (these are stats only, they don't decide the outcome of the games), and that momentum, field position, and turnovers don't make a huge difference in the outcome of the games, is flawed on it's face.
Posted on 9/21/10 at 9:41 am to EricB
quote:
Yeah, he throws the ball with the nose down. Also, there's a huge differnce between the qb hitting the WR in the hands, and the WR pulling a superman to get his hands on the ball.
You just lost all credibility in this discussion.
Congratulations.
Posted on 9/21/10 at 9:41 am to Roaad
quote:
Unless that is the point of the drill. . .
What do you think was the goal of that pre-season fundamentals drill on August 11th?
Tell me a drill where regardless of the WR or his SPEED, the QB is supposed to throw it to the same location?
That is fricking absurd. The point of fall drills is for the QBs to get the timing down with the WRs. JJ overthrew a guy. Deal with it.
And to say your an LSU-apologist is hillarious. You have defended one and only one player on this board, and that is JJ. I think that is fine, but do not attempt to prop JJ up by hating on Lee. I hate the JL-supporters that do the same thing.
I want a QB to win the job because he is the best chance for this team to win. If that is JJ, so be it, but I want JL pushing the shite out of him and vice versa. You, on the other hand, would undoubtedly bitch if JJ loses the job.
Posted on 9/21/10 at 9:42 am to slackster
quote:Dude, you have so qualified this thing that it has become a joke.
No, I mean who can throw it with more velocity on medium to long routes.
Lee has a better arm based upon:
Accuracy: No, you don't mean that.
Arm strength: No, you don't mean that.
Authority: Yes, that is what you mean. The gold standard of a better arm.
Posted on 9/21/10 at 9:42 am to EricB
quote:
So Shepard dropping a wide open pass that hits him in the hands on 3rd and 7 is Jefferson's fault?
quote:
Yeah, he throws the ball with the nose down.
quote:
Also, there's a huge differnce between the qb hitting the WR in the hands, and the WR pulling a superman to get his hands on the ball.
You are probably my new favorite poster.
You got me, though. I thought you were being serious this whole time.
Posted on 9/21/10 at 9:42 am to Antonio Moss
quote:
And that Jefferson's fault?
Did I say it was? I was proving your point that it WAS NOT his fault, rather the OL fault.
Chill out.
Posted on 9/21/10 at 9:43 am to slackster
quote:
Did I say it was? I was proving your point that it WAS NOT his fault, rather the OL fault.
No, just checking.
So of the three FG drives, Jefferson can be held responsible for, at most, two.
Posted on 9/21/10 at 9:44 am to Roaad
quote:
Ridley and Blue moved LSU into scoring position on five of the six drives
FIFY
As far as the spring videos not meaning anything, I think you should pick your argument. For ages JJ fanatics have conceded that JL IS better in practice but he doesn't have that magical, unmeasurable ability to be awesome in games like JJ does. Now that JJ is SUCKING in games, you wish to go back and fight your original concete that JL is indeed better than JJ in practice.
Posted on 9/21/10 at 9:44 am to ForeLSU
quote:quote:all of them...if the staff had more confidence in Jefferson, they might have called more aggressive stuff.
of those five drives, how many do you believe stalled due to Jefferson's play?
Staff confidence means that Shep doesn't drop a pass in his hands?
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