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re: If Harris starts, do we lose Jennings?

Posted on 6/6/14 at 3:34 pm to
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
296383 posts
Posted on 6/6/14 at 3:34 pm to
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Any QB that can learn under Cam would be foolish to transfer early in their career. Period.


Playing time >>> No playing time. Anyone who would be a career backup would do better starting somewhere else.
Posted by PurpleAndGold86
Member since Jun 2012
11036 posts
Posted on 6/6/14 at 4:05 pm to
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Think about it, Mett as a fourth year junior sucked. Lee and JJ sucked, Hatch sucked, Shepard went immediately to playing RB/WR, Randall couldn't crack the four deep, Rivers was beat out by true freshman twice, Bolden was fourth string at best, Garrett quit, Perriloux got in trouble and was kicked off, other Lee left for baseball, Rettig transfers, Jennings might get beat out.


I'm thoroughly confused by all this babbling. You're talking about guys that never stepped foot on LSUs campus. We were talking about people that actually played QB.

Hatch was a transfer. No one expected him to play or be any good. Kind of like no one expects Kragthorpe to ever be any good. If it wasn't for Perilloux getting in trouble he never sniffs the field. Perilloux getting in trouble isn't a knock on the position under Miles. Anyone can get in trouble. He was given a ton of chances.

Shepard? Did you ever try to see him throw a football? Why the hell would he not have been shifted to WR/RB?

What does Rivers getting beat out by freshman have to do with anything? Maybe he just isn't very good?

Lee left for baseball? No shite, he got offered like 5 million bucks.

Jennings might get beat out? So what? Because someone is better? Is that a bad thing?

You're really making a reach talking about guys that were completely buried in the depth chart and had no chance to play here. That might have been one of the most rambling off topic posts I have ever read on the rant.

Posted by lsu2006
BR
Member since Feb 2004
40086 posts
Posted on 6/6/14 at 4:07 pm to
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PurpleAndGold86

Well put.

Someone will be here to call you "butthurt" in 3... 2...
Posted by PurpleAndGold86
Member since Jun 2012
11036 posts
Posted on 6/6/14 at 4:18 pm to


I mean I had to read it twice because I was so confused as to why someone would say the QB position has been bad under Miles and then use Zach Lee to try and show their point. Very strange.
Posted by TigerBait2008
Boulder,CO
Member since Jun 2008
38148 posts
Posted on 6/6/14 at 4:31 pm to
Threads just get more dumb by the day..
Posted by PeaRidgeWatash
Down by the docks of the city
Member since Dec 2004
15210 posts
Posted on 6/6/14 at 4:38 pm to
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Whats the point of learning if you never get to use it on the field?


What part of early in their career escaped you?
Posted by PeaRidgeWatash
Down by the docks of the city
Member since Dec 2004
15210 posts
Posted on 6/6/14 at 4:40 pm to
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Playing time >>> No playing time. Anyone who would be a career backup would do better starting somewhere else.


Like I said, early in their career.
Posted by tigerlore
Member since Feb 2013
217 posts
Posted on 6/6/14 at 4:44 pm to
All things being equal, AJ deserves to be the starter. He did a great job saving the team last year against Arkansas and we won the Outback bowl. High school football is not division 1 football and not many freshman quarterbacks can or even should be put in a starting job running the offense. Everybody needs to chill out.
Posted by timm6971463
oakdale la
Member since Mar 2008
4387 posts
Posted on 6/6/14 at 5:38 pm to
sometimes a team can get away with a single good drop back passer but you can't get away with a single running quarterback we have to have to really hope that the coaches stress that with the qbs !
This post was edited on 6/6/14 at 5:44 pm
Posted by timm6971463
oakdale la
Member since Mar 2008
4387 posts
Posted on 6/6/14 at 5:50 pm to
Jenning should have the first in line advantage but I trust Les Miles to make the call !
Posted by Tigerntx
NOLA
Member since Jul 2011
1309 posts
Posted on 6/6/14 at 5:57 pm to
Tough to make this call. In the modern era, not much loyalty to a program anywhere. Jennings is a talented youngster that had one meaning quarter. His single start was marginal. Harris has the potential on paper, but as anyone that has played the position at D-1 will tell you, you never know until he gets on the field & how he adjust the speed & complexity of the game at this level.
Both are mobile & as such, subject to injury. Depth is imperative for a successful season. If he gets playing time beyond mop-up, my guess is he stays. If Harris performs as advertised & stays healthy, odds favor a transfer.
This is just the beginning of the saga with kids lining up to be coached by Cam. He is & will continue to be successful recruiting them, but doubt many will go the distance & play out their eligibility with Tigers.
But then their are stories like Leach @ TT. He had a host of talented guys lined up. If memory serves, over a five year span, four different kids started the season. All were seniors. Have to wonder why a kid with the talent would stay for three or four years to play one, but it obviously can be done.
Posted by wdonbrown
Morris County NJ
Member since Nov 2009
51 posts
Posted on 6/6/14 at 9:01 pm to
Definitely agree

ipodking:
quote:

Yeah he'd definitely transfer out. Which makes it even more important LSU finds a good QB for the 2015 class
Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
Member since Feb 2009
74147 posts
Posted on 6/6/14 at 9:28 pm to
If Jennings starts, do we lose Harris?
Posted by Datbayoubengal
Port City
Member since Sep 2009
28985 posts
Posted on 6/6/14 at 9:35 pm to
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I'm thoroughly confused by all this babbling. You're talking about guys that never stepped foot on LSUs campus. We were talking about people that actually played QB. Hatch was a transfer. No one expected him to play or be any good. Kind of like no one expects Kragthorpe to ever be any good. If it wasn't for Perilloux getting in trouble he never sniffs the field. Perilloux getting in trouble isn't a knock on the position under Miles. Anyone can get in trouble. He was given a ton of chances. Shepard? Did you ever try to see him throw a football? Why the hell would he not have been shifted to WR/RB? What does Rivers getting beat out by freshman have to do with anything? Maybe he just isn't very good? Lee left for baseball? No shite, he got offered like 5 million bucks. Jennings might get beat out? So what? Because someone is better? Is that a bad thing? You're really making a reach talking about guys that were completely buried in the depth chart and had no chance to play here. That might have been one of the most rambling off topic posts I have ever read on the rant.


Wow, you got none of the easy to grasp things I was saying did you? Read what you wrote. From recruitment, to development, to sustainability, we have sucked arse at QB. Mett was on his way to being the next chapter of bad QBs until Cam came in. All the way around, the QB situation has been a mess since Flynn left. Mett was the only QB Miles brought in that really did anything, and he only did it the year Cam came.

You can read articles with the stuff I've said. Mett's 2013 season was the first good thing from an LSU QB since 2008. It's time for the gear to turn in the other direction. You can't do anything about transfers and drafts, but you can find the right guy for the system, and you can develop that guy. After that, it's pretty much out of your hands.
This post was edited on 6/6/14 at 9:45 pm
Posted by cajunjj
Madison, AL
Member since May 2008
7427 posts
Posted on 6/7/14 at 9:12 am to
If u have a 2 qb system it means u have no qb! I think LES made a mistake by letting Rettig go. With our running backs why do we have to have a duel threat qb?
This post was edited on 6/7/14 at 9:15 am
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
296383 posts
Posted on 6/7/14 at 10:18 am to
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Like I said, early in their career.


I don't think anyone would expect another QB transfer before the season starts. We've already had two. It wouldn't surprise me to see Jennings bolt following the season if Harris ends up starting at some point this year and plays well though.
Posted by PeaRidgeWatash
Down by the docks of the city
Member since Dec 2004
15210 posts
Posted on 6/7/14 at 11:32 am to
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wouldn't surprise me to see Jennings bolt following the


Me neither after a few years learning from Cam and with our presumed signees coming in. Rivers played it perfectly. As far as combine interest too.
This post was edited on 6/7/14 at 11:33 am
Posted by OceanMan
Member since Mar 2010
22701 posts
Posted on 6/7/14 at 12:22 pm to
This is a really bad thread.

Why does everyone assume that Jennings its a quitter and would transfer rather than keep working. I mean right now, he is probably the starter. And prior really think within a year, he will leave the team because the other guy plays more?

We will not wind up with a great 2015 guy. That pretty much means its a 2 qb race for the rest of his career. I think he is up to the challenge and it will makee them both better. We have 2 good qbs right now, tiger fans aren't used to it and want to build up an unnecessary controversy.

And another thing, rettig just want all that great. He won't be transferring to an sec school. Lets just leave Jennings alone until he actually hurts us on the field, then feel free to fetch the pitch forks.
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