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re: How obvious has it been for the last 5 or so years of Miles' stubbornness...

Posted on 12/8/16 at 11:08 am to
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 12/8/16 at 11:08 am to
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Dude do you not understand college football cycles? Apparently not we are talking about at that time not alltime or all decade.


Yes i do. You consider a cycle to be what, let me guess, 2 years? Most people would say about 5 years for your program to establish itself and prove that 1 good year isnt a fluke.
By your logic ole miss is a top 10 program because they finished top 10 last year.

I said saban had us primed to be a top 5 program and that no i dont think miles couldve done what saban did.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
46621 posts
Posted on 12/8/16 at 11:09 am to
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he already did and 0 is not competent enough to run a defense for a P5 program. You do the math.


O hasnt proved he is better than miles. Come on dallas.
This post was edited on 12/8/16 at 11:10 am
Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
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Posted on 12/8/16 at 11:09 am to
Was LSU a top 5 program after the 2011 season????
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
46621 posts
Posted on 12/8/16 at 11:13 am to
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Was LSU a top 5 program after the 2011 season????


From 2012-present,no we arent a top 5 program and wins and losses prove it.we have the takent to be put miles wasnt getting it done and was justly fired. You yourself even admitted miles hasnt destroyed the program with his tenure.

Saban is easily the best coach lsu has ever had and his tenured allowed Miles to take lsu to new heights. Without saban there is no great tenure for miles.
This post was edited on 12/8/16 at 11:16 am
Posted by Dallasgrowl
Allen, Texas
Member since Oct 2003
7001 posts
Posted on 12/8/16 at 11:15 am to
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O hasnt proved he is better than miles. Come on dallas.


0 has proven that with the same players in the same year, he can make the team play at a MUCH higher level than that buffoon did.

Miles proved to everyone, once and for all that playing just better than break even was a completely absurd way to lead a team to championships.

Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
47649 posts
Posted on 12/8/16 at 11:17 am to
4 years let me break it down because you must've been too young to remember. We change coaches before 2000 have a decent class maybe worst oline in our history we go 8-5 2001 better class about 11 good freshman oline improved we win the sec and BCS bowl that's a top 5 season. 2002 was supposed to be the big year pre season hype in BR was unreal we start 4-1 with a blowout of grossman and comp in the swamp but mauck gets hurt huge loss then other ppl start dropping like flies and by the time we hit the cotton bowl we have micheal Clayton playing safety and we are pulling redshirts just to field a team. That's the season you're wrong about 2002 so 03 we win it all then 04 the team is pretty much an exact copy of 03 without a qb. He did insert jruss into the starting lineup for the Florida game and he got hurt and was gimpy until late in the season. So from 01 to 07 yes we were a top 5 program 2002 had more injuries than any team I can remember since 81 but other than that you've got 2 sec titles and a natty in 4 years. If that's not top 5 there's no such thing.
This post was edited on 12/8/16 at 11:19 am
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
46621 posts
Posted on 12/8/16 at 11:18 am to
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has proven that with the same players in the same year, he can make the team play at a MUCH higher level than that buffoon did.


Bruh, o didnt run the offense nor did he run the defense.
All that happened was the opening up of the middle of the field.
quote:

Miles proved to everyone, once and for all that playing just better than break even was a completely absurd way to lead a team to championships.


He proved he refused to take chances and his refusal to allow our qbs to throw over the middle(unless he had faith in his qb) was his downfall.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
46621 posts
Posted on 12/8/16 at 11:21 am to
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So from 01 to 05 yes we were a top 5 program


Bull shite.

3 losses
5 losses
1 loss
3 losses

Does not make you a top 5 program.
It doenst. Thats 1 top 5 finish.

Usc ,ohio state,miami,Oklahoma and fsu are all better than lsu from 2001-2004.
And thatsbjist off the top of my head.im not even factoring that the sec west was absolute dog shite for most of those years.tge years you listed had 3 west teams with top 10 finishes.
A 3 loss sec title is still a 3 ooss season.
Just like a 2 loss bcs title is still 2 losses


This post was edited on 12/8/16 at 11:26 am
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
47649 posts
Posted on 12/8/16 at 11:26 am to
Dude seriously wtf is wrong with you? 2 sec titles and a natty in 4 years plus the talent and circumstances surrounding 04-02 yes we were the entire sports world recognizes this you refuse to because you're obsessed with miles. It's a fact if you don't wanna believe it that's fine you're just wrong.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
47649 posts
Posted on 12/8/16 at 11:27 am to
Sec west was dog shite? 3 sec titles in 4 years yea dog shite. Shows how much you don't know you really are stupid.
Posted by Dallasgrowl
Allen, Texas
Member since Oct 2003
7001 posts
Posted on 12/8/16 at 11:27 am to
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Bruh, o didnt run the offense nor did he run the defense.
All that happened was the opening up of the middle of the field.


And yet, your buddy could not figure that shite out, could he?

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He proved he refused to take chances and his refusal to allow our qbs to throw over the middle(unless he had faith in his qb) was his downfall.


The man was over his head when he got here and it got worse over time. His Lesticles luck ran out and he had nothing left.
Posted by dgnx6
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
68444 posts
Posted on 12/8/16 at 11:28 am to
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12


At one point LSU had 22 scholarship players missing. That was one of their better coaching Jobs imo. Lose tyrann, lose Kwon for the season. Faulk was gone for the season.

Key players that would have started or contributed to depth late in the season were gone.

Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
47649 posts
Posted on 12/8/16 at 11:32 am to
This guy is a moron dude nomatter how much you prove him wrong he'll just ignore your facts. He's like a certain political party that can't accept losing.
Posted by Cadello
Eunice
Member since Dec 2007
47794 posts
Posted on 12/8/16 at 11:32 am to
They fired the guy. What more do want?
Posted by dgnx6
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
68444 posts
Posted on 12/8/16 at 11:33 am to
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2002 had more injuries than any team I can remember since 81 but other than that you've got 2 sec titles and a natty in 4 years. If that's not top 5 there's no such thing.


But loses to Arkansas on bad clock management in 2002.

Look, Saban is the goat, but that doesn't make Miles a shite coach. The excuses are always out for the sabanistas, same shite, losing to inferior opponents, having a stagnant offense without a qb, Jimbo was oc btw, yet he always gets a pass.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
46621 posts
Posted on 12/8/16 at 11:33 am to
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2 sec titles


1 with 3 losses. Its like you really believe that a 3 loss sec title is better than a 2 loss acc team. The sec was not some great conf in the early 2000.

3 losses regardless of the title
5 losses
1 loss
3 losses
Is not a top 5 program.

I just listed 5 programs with better years from 2000-2004
quote:

we were the entire sports world recognizes this you refuse to because you're obsessed with miles


Ha ha. I guess you missed all my posted saying without saban there is no great miles tenure.
Only lsu fans would say 13 losses in 4 years makes you a top 5 program.

quote:

's a fact




Its the exact opposite of a fact. Youre posting opinion and im posting facts about wins and losses and posted where 5 other programs had better years from 2000-2004.deal with it. That paragraph you posted was full of opinions
Posted by dgnx6
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
68444 posts
Posted on 12/8/16 at 11:34 am to
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This guy is a moron dude nomatter how much you prove him wrong he'll just ignore your facts. He's like a certain political party that can't accept losing.





You refuse to acknowledge facts as well there buddy.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
47649 posts
Posted on 12/8/16 at 11:35 am to
Example?
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
46621 posts
Posted on 12/8/16 at 11:36 am to
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Look, Saban is the goat, but that doesn't make Miles a shite coach. The excuses are always out for the sabanistas, same shite, losing to inferior opponents, having a stagnant offense without a qb, Jimbo was oc btw, yet he always gets a pass.


Dont you know that wins and losses dont matter under saban. Only opinions make us a top 5 program
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
47649 posts
Posted on 12/8/16 at 11:37 am to
Lie some more dude just like the sec west was shite. They won 3 of 4 sec titles and had a national title and an undefeated team in those 4 years. You're a child.
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