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re: How obvious has it been for the last 5 or so years of Miles' stubbornness...

Posted on 12/8/16 at 12:24 pm to
Posted by Madking
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Posted on 12/8/16 at 12:24 pm to
LSU wasn't a top 30 program when Saban took over and you know why? Because they'd won 7 games in 2 years and had almost no talent or prospects of getting better.
This post was edited on 12/8/16 at 12:26 pm
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 12/8/16 at 12:25 pm to
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3 loss SEC champ is better than a two loss ACC non champ.... you do know football if you believe this...


So 2011 west Virginia was better than 2011 alabama?
This post was edited on 12/8/16 at 12:28 pm
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
47404 posts
Posted on 12/8/16 at 12:27 pm to
quote:

LSU wasn't a top 30 program when Saban took over and you know why? Because they'd won 7 games in 2 years and had almost no talent or prospects of getting bett


Ok.
So not even a top 30 program.

So after 3 years of saban we have 4 losses, 3losses,and 5 losses. Where are we ranked as a program now?
Walk me through this since im so stupid.

So not a top 30 program and we lose games in 3 years where are we after 2002?
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
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Posted on 12/8/16 at 12:28 pm to
I'm telling you man he's extra detached from reality tday. And you know how all this started? He changed the subject because he couldn't answer me when I asked why his hero couldn't get a job and how come one of the top 5 college football coaches didn't have Texas Oregon the NFL or any college teams trying to hire him.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
47404 posts
Posted on 12/8/16 at 12:29 pm to
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telling you man he's extra detached from reality tday. And you know how all this started? He changed the subject because he couldn't answer me when I asked why his hero couldn't get a job and how come one of the top 5 college football coaches didn't have Texas Oregon the NFL or any college teams trying to hire him.


This has nothing to do with you being football ignorant and saying 1 top 5 finish makes you a top 5 program.


And again, i proved 5 different programs had better years than lsu. I have already proved you wrong dumbass.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
47404 posts
Posted on 12/8/16 at 12:30 pm to
Walk me through this since im so stupid.
Lsu isnt a top 30 program and we lose 12 games in 3 years. Where are we as a program?
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
58984 posts
Posted on 12/8/16 at 12:31 pm to
After 02 we are top 10-15 because 01 sec champs and were on our way to at least defending in atlanta before the rash of injuries in 02.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
58984 posts
Posted on 12/8/16 at 12:33 pm to
1 top 1 finish idiot not top 5 top 1 and 1 too 6 that's top 5 idc how you want to deny it finishing as national champs no1 and sec champs no6 overall avg that out and you get 3/4 that's top 5!!!!
This post was edited on 12/8/16 at 12:34 pm
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
47404 posts
Posted on 12/8/16 at 12:34 pm to
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After 02 we are top 10-15 because 01 sec champs and were on our way to at least defending in atlanta before the rash of injuries in 02.




So we arent even a top 30 program and we jump 15-20 spots because of a 3 loss sec title? Ha ha ha. Take off your purple and gold glasses. God you are stupid. We jump 15-20 spots because we finished ranked 1 time in 3 years? Im done. get off Saban's dick.


Keep posting about injuries and what ifs.
This post was edited on 12/8/16 at 12:36 pm
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
58984 posts
Posted on 12/8/16 at 12:36 pm to
You really are stupid you judge things backwards. You don't look 3 years into the past to judge were a program is and is headed you judge the recent past with the group they have and the group coming in. You don't judge 2004 by what 1999 did idiot. You are as backwards thinking a person as there is.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
58984 posts
Posted on 12/8/16 at 12:39 pm to
You're an idiot ignorance is forgivable I know you weren't there and you didn't know anything back then because you were too young that's ok. Pretending you know is pompous and stupid. Just keep talking about your unemployed hero that's all you know you're not an LSU fan you're a Miles fan and that's fine just stop posing poser.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
58984 posts
Posted on 12/8/16 at 12:42 pm to
Hey clemsons not a top 5 program because 7 years ago they weren't top 5 and they only have 2 top 5 finishes. Michigan isn't a top 10 program because they only have 2 top 10 finishes in the past 7 years.
This post was edited on 12/8/16 at 12:44 pm
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
47404 posts
Posted on 12/8/16 at 12:43 pm to
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You don't look 3 years into the past to judge were a program is and is headed you judge the recent past with the group they have and the group coming in

You need to learn the difference between what is and POTENTIALLY what is.
Yeah we all know football teams always play to their talent and they always achieve their predicted goals. The only thing you can jusdge a program by is WHAT THEY HAVE DONE. Not what they are perceived to be in the future.

And again, i posted 5 programs with better years than lsu. I already proved you wrong.

Their is a difference between where a program isn which is what we are talking about and what their potential is. Was lsu potentially a top 5 program? Sure. Were they when nick saban left? No.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
58984 posts
Posted on 12/8/16 at 12:45 pm to
But we reached our goals before 04 we won 2 sec titles and a national title and had 2 top 5 classes in tow. I'm judging the 04 state of the program by the present you're judging 04 by 1999 the past.
This post was edited on 12/8/16 at 12:48 pm
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
58984 posts
Posted on 12/8/16 at 12:46 pm to
You just don't give anyone but miles credit plain and simple. That's all this is about and you know it so idc what you say there not one person who agrees with you.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
58984 posts
Posted on 12/8/16 at 12:50 pm to
We won 33 games from 05-07 miles recruited about 10% of the players who saw action those years meaning they were here in 04 so from 01 to 07 how many games did we win? Yea top 5 program. What's sad is Saban would've won more from 05-07 and you honestly don't believe that lmfao.
This post was edited on 12/8/16 at 12:52 pm
Posted by geaux99
Wamegeaux, KS
Member since Aug 2005
1598 posts
Posted on 12/8/16 at 12:52 pm to
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What's shocking to me is that it took people this long to see what was happening.


Bingo.

quote:

It was so frustrating to watch LSU football in the last 4 years.


12 years.

quote:

Winning or not was not the issue. It was how it was won or lost.


Bingo, again.
Posted by yimbeaux
Texas
Member since Nov 2014
1894 posts
Posted on 12/8/16 at 12:57 pm to
especially since ucf isn't open
Posted by geaux99
Wamegeaux, KS
Member since Aug 2005
1598 posts
Posted on 12/8/16 at 12:59 pm to
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He changed the subject because he couldn't answer me when I asked why his hero couldn't get a job and how come one of the top 5 college football coaches didn't have Texas Oregon the NFL or any college teams trying to hire him.


None of the Miles apologists (probably 60% of the board up until the end of last year) could answer this for the last 7 years. It was discussed regularly, but nobody ever had a rational answer--even people I respect who, on the OT would carry on about why the free market dictates what survives and fails.

Nobody wants to buy Les Miles because he's not very good.
Posted by yimbeaux
Texas
Member since Nov 2014
1894 posts
Posted on 12/8/16 at 1:01 pm to
no, but mismanagement in clutch situations and delay of games/unnecessary timeouts happened with alarming regularity.
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