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re: how many passes did J. Lee drop last night?
Posted on 11/9/08 at 9:14 pm to lsu xman
Posted on 11/9/08 at 9:14 pm to lsu xman
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how many balls way off the mark to open receivers?
Just the play in which he could have ran for the 1st but instead stopped and tried to loft the ball and it went out of bounds was grounds to bench him for a least a couple of series.
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Posted on 11/9/08 at 9:14 pm to lsu xman
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Lee said it himself, the WR's were open all night and he did a poor job of getting them the ball.
what did you expect him to say? he was right...he didn't have a good game, but he got litte help from his wr's
Posted on 11/9/08 at 9:14 pm to LSUfan4444
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i guess so....i guess it must have been hatch or troy aikman who hit chris mithcell in stride
1 good pass for every 5 bad ones does not a good QB make.
Posted on 11/9/08 at 9:17 pm to Elleshoe
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1 good pass for every 5 bad ones does not a good QB make.
did i claim anywhere that i said i thought lee was a good qb right now?
i said he had alot of drops....AT LEAST 2 of them were VERY costly!
Posted on 11/9/08 at 9:19 pm to LSUfan4444
yeah... I agree. The loss was probably only about 85% his fault. 10% to the receivers who get lit up on his piss poor passes, and 5% spread to a variety of other areas.
Posted on 11/9/08 at 9:21 pm to Elleshoe
70% Lee
15% Coaches
5% RP
5% fans
5% WR drops
15% Coaches
5% RP
5% fans
5% WR drops
Posted on 11/9/08 at 9:24 pm to Elleshoe
are you chosing to ignore the drops, or do you acknlowedge they happened and some were costly but just don't like admitting how costly mitchells was
Posted on 11/9/08 at 9:25 pm to LSUfan4444
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are you chosing to ignore the drops, or do you acknlowedge they happened and some were costly but just don't like admitting how costly mitchells was
costly, but the game should have been won anyway. I don't think sometimes they expect to get good balls thrown to them.
Posted on 11/9/08 at 9:26 pm to LSUfan4444
he did play receiver in the wilcat formation, they din't throw it to him though.
Posted on 11/9/08 at 9:26 pm to Elleshoe
Lee was 13 for 34 (38%) with 4 interceptions (including a pick 6) as well as 1 TD. His efficiency was 69.13, which is 20 points lower than his previous worst.
He had a bad game!
He may have potential, but he certainly didn't put on a good show in this game. He had happy feet, he panicked under pressure, he telegraphed many of his passes (although possibly less so than previously) and made a good bit of crappy throws (even when he had men open and little pressure).
Yes a few passes were dropped (notably the long bomb down the sideline), but far more passes were poorly thrown.
If Lee doesn't improve and Jefferson cannot fill the void, we will likely lose another game this season.
Given the talent we have elsewhere, it is heartbreaking to see this. And, don't get me wrong, I'm not putting the blame on Lee. If he is doing his best, then thats all we can ask for as fans. However it is still difficult to watch a team with so much potential and desire lose a game like we did Saturday. I believe we were the better team and played like the better team.
Just my 2 cents. Geaux Tigers!
He had a bad game!
He may have potential, but he certainly didn't put on a good show in this game. He had happy feet, he panicked under pressure, he telegraphed many of his passes (although possibly less so than previously) and made a good bit of crappy throws (even when he had men open and little pressure).
Yes a few passes were dropped (notably the long bomb down the sideline), but far more passes were poorly thrown.
If Lee doesn't improve and Jefferson cannot fill the void, we will likely lose another game this season.
Given the talent we have elsewhere, it is heartbreaking to see this. And, don't get me wrong, I'm not putting the blame on Lee. If he is doing his best, then thats all we can ask for as fans. However it is still difficult to watch a team with so much potential and desire lose a game like we did Saturday. I believe we were the better team and played like the better team.
Just my 2 cents. Geaux Tigers!
Posted on 11/9/08 at 9:29 pm to LSUfan4444
the drops cost us badly, unfortunately drops happen, and they would have been negated had Lee been able to consistently throw the ball better
I get what your saying though, this loss is not all Lee.
and for the record, JPW was a horrible qb for almost his entire career and this has been his only good year, so DONT be so quick to say Lee is a horrible qb and will never be good
I get what your saying though, this loss is not all Lee.
and for the record, JPW was a horrible qb for almost his entire career and this has been his only good year, so DONT be so quick to say Lee is a horrible qb and will never be good
Posted on 11/9/08 at 9:29 pm to jukedout
its stupid to continue to harp on a drop pass when the QB throws 4INT(1 pick6) for the night.
here are real concrete numbers in Lee's last 2 games.
21/54 38% 280yds 2td/5int(2 pick6)
this is in games in which LSU rb's blows it up for 200+yds and LSU getting great pass protection.
here are real concrete numbers in Lee's last 2 games.
21/54 38% 280yds 2td/5int(2 pick6)
this is in games in which LSU rb's blows it up for 200+yds and LSU getting great pass protection.
This post was edited on 11/9/08 at 9:32 pm
Posted on 11/9/08 at 9:32 pm to jukedout
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Yes a few passes were dropped (notably the long bomb down the sideline), but far more passes were poorly thrown.
qb's can throw 17 straight completions and then a horrible int...as well as they can throw 17 straight terrible passes and then one gem
when that gem is dropped, it hurts....BAD!
Posted on 11/9/08 at 9:35 pm to lsusportsman2
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he did play receiver in the wilcat formation, they din't throw it to him though.
This is his last challenge of the year, find a way to get the ball in this formation and end the play with the other team scoring a td. He can do this by getting the ball behind the line and throwing yet another pick six (traditional and more probable) or catching a pass and fumbling and defender takes it to the house. (more interesting approach)
Posted on 11/9/08 at 9:51 pm to LSUfan4444
How many of Lee's passes did Alabama's DB's drop ?
Posted on 11/9/08 at 9:52 pm to teeMike
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Just the play in which he could have ran for the 1st but instead stopped and tried to loft the ball and it went out of bounds was grounds to bench him for a least a couple of series.
God I blew a gasket when I saw that. Dumb,
Dumb, Dumb. He just doesn't think.
Posted on 11/9/08 at 10:02 pm to NationalChampionLSU
Just as many as our QB threw interceptions!
Posted on 11/9/08 at 10:06 pm to teeMike
ON the play where Lee had an open field and chose not to not run for first but lob the ball out of bounds, I'll bet he was told by the coaches to not even think about running the ball. He probably was doing exactly what they told him. They have not managed this QB situation well. They could have run at least a few series with Lee on the bench even at the risk of him losing a tad more confidence. It's not as if he has not seen the bench before in previous games.
Posted on 11/9/08 at 10:09 pm to LSUfan4444
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are you chosing to ignore the drops,
the problem here is you choosing to ignore lee's piss poor play and the fact that it hurts this team much more than dropped passes, more than other people igonring the dropped passes
how many open receivers did brandon lafell miss last night?
how many interceptions did chris mitchell throw?
how many times did demetrius byrd throw the ball away instead of running 3 yards for a first down?
how many points did terrance toliver give the other team directly?
all of those questions are equally as interesting as the one you started this thread with.
This post was edited on 11/9/08 at 10:11 pm
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