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re: Herbstreit praising the SEC on the radio...

Posted on 7/31/08 at 6:34 pm to
Posted by MJRuffalo
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Posted on 7/31/08 at 6:34 pm to
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I'm one of the few whose had Heath Ledger in me....

God rest his soul.


Uhhh, and exactly how deep was he in you??
Posted by BuckeyeFan87
Columbus
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 7/31/08 at 6:35 pm to
Posted by Suck Out West
Phoenix, AZ
Member since Dec 2006
5932 posts
Posted on 7/31/08 at 6:36 pm to
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First off I never said head and shoulders better than everyone else. I just said the #1 program right now.


Arkansas' RB & QB were both hurt in '05. I still give credit for the impressive beating. That was an asswhipping where u had to keep the women and children from seeing!! Auburn was not that good in '03 if u remember. Play these teams week in, week out then call me in the morning. I don't beleive the "we beat them by more than what you beat them" routine either. It's all about matchups IMO. See: UM over Gaytors.

SEC does stack up the home games. Youre right about that. LSU plays @FL, Auburn, COCKS this year. @FL, Auburn, Arkansas, TN in '06! When's the last time USC played FOUR top 10 teams all on the road in one season like LSU did 2 years ago??? All conference games too. hhhmmm.

How many ranked teams did USC beat last year?? ONE. How many did LSU beat?? 6 or 7?

Washington, Washington St, Oregon St, Stanford, Arizona on the road? Please

Go between the hedges, on the Plains, in the Swamp, Death Valley, Bryant-Denny week in, week out, every year. Play in front of hostile crowds full of drunk & cocky frat boys with heavily startched shirts & ties, in the humidity, under the lights, grits, corn rows, gold teeth...the SEC has all of that. Corvalis,Oregon? Palo Alto,Ca? Tucson,AZ? no.

I was in Tucson for LSU/AZ in '03 and the Wildcat fans couldn't leave fast enough. I was at LSU/ASU in '05...the student section was nice, cheerleaders fine as hell, but otherwise weak.
Posted by SprintFun
Columbus, OH
Member since Dec 2007
45838 posts
Posted on 7/31/08 at 6:36 pm to
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Just curious to see a link for this.


Me too...
Posted by Suck Out West
Phoenix, AZ
Member since Dec 2006
5932 posts
Posted on 7/31/08 at 6:37 pm to
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IM ALL JACKED UP ON MOUNTAIN DEW


U must have to piss like a racehorse.
Posted by Brageous
Member since Jul 2008
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Posted on 7/31/08 at 6:37 pm to
I find it extremely hard to believe USC has had a MUCH better SOS than some SEC teams, especially Florida. They always have a tough schedule because they play Florida St and Miami every year.
Posted by MJRuffalo
Huntington Beach
Member since May 2008
6619 posts
Posted on 7/31/08 at 6:37 pm to
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Just curious to see a link for this.


I did the calculation myself, using the Sagarin Archives. Just took the mean of USC's SOS the past 6 years.

LINK
Posted by Suck Out West
Phoenix, AZ
Member since Dec 2006
5932 posts
Posted on 7/31/08 at 6:38 pm to
quote:

Brokeback Mountain changed my life.
Posted by FrisceauxTiger
out west
Member since Jul 2008
1851 posts
Posted on 7/31/08 at 6:39 pm to
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Go between the hedges, on the Plains, in the Swamp, Death Valley, Bryant-Denny week in, week out, every year. Play in front of hostile crowds full of drunk & cocky frat boys with heavily startched shirts & ties, in the humidity, under the lights, grits, corn rows, gold teeth...the SEC has all of that. Corvalis,Oregon? Palo Alto,Ca? Tucson,AZ? no.


+1. Almost poetic. Well done indeed.
Posted by MJRuffalo
Huntington Beach
Member since May 2008
6619 posts
Posted on 7/31/08 at 6:45 pm to
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Arkansas' RB & QB were both hurt in '05. I still give credit for the impressive beating. That was an asswhipping where u had to keep the women and children from seeing!! Auburn was not that good in '03 if u remember. Play these teams week in, week out then call me in the morning. I don't beleive the "we beat them by more than what you beat them" routine either. It's all about matchups IMO. See: UM over Gaytors.

SEC does stack up the home games. Youre right about that. LSU plays @FL, Auburn, COCKS this year. @FL, Auburn, Arkansas, TN in '06! When's the last time USC played FOUR top 10 teams all on the road in one season like LSU did 2 years ago??? All conference games too. hhhmmm.

How many ranked teams did USC beat last year?? ONE. How many did LSU beat?? 6 or 7?

Washington, Washington St, Oregon St, Stanford, Arizona on the road? Please

Go between the hedges, on the Plains, in the Swamp, Death Valley, Bryant-Denny week in, week out, every year. Play in front of hostile crowds full of drunk & cocky frat boys with heavily startched shirts & ties (is that supposed to be intimidating or something?), in the humidity, under the lights, grits, corn rows, gold teeth...the SEC has all of that. Corvalis,Oregon? Palo Alto,Ca? Tucson,AZ? no.

I was in Tucson for LSU/AZ in '03 and the Wildcat fans couldn't leave fast enough. Arizona was complete garbage that season. I was at LSU/ASU in '05...the student section was nice, cheerleaders fine as hell, but otherwise weak.
Other wise weak, shite LSU needed an act of god to win that game. ASU offense was raping your D. Kicking game couldn't block anyone though.


I am not real big on the comparative scoring thing either but it does say something when we beat Arkansas by more cumulative points than all of the rest of their losses combined.

As for # of ranked teams we beat last year that would be 3. Though it is harder to be a ranked team or become bowl eligible in the PAC-10 than any other conference due to everyone playing 9 conference games. (I think Cal would have been a ranked team in pretty much any other conference, and I think Washington and Stanford would have been bowl eligible in most other conferneces). Conversely we do get a boost in SOS because of it.
This post was edited on 7/31/08 at 6:48 pm
Posted by MJRuffalo
Huntington Beach
Member since May 2008
6619 posts
Posted on 7/31/08 at 6:46 pm to
herbstreit
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I find it extremely hard to believe USC has had a MUCH better SOS than some SEC teams, especially Florida. They always have a tough schedule because they play Florida St and Miami every year.


This is the first year that FLorida will play Miami in a long time.
Posted by Suck Out West
Phoenix, AZ
Member since Dec 2006
5932 posts
Posted on 7/31/08 at 7:15 pm to
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shite LSU needed an act of god to win that game. ASU offense was raping your D. Kicking game couldn't block anyone though.


Hurricane Katrina: Home opener moved by over 1200 miles at the last minute. Guys staying up late to help out @ the Pmac all week. Guys like Skyler stacking up about a dozen relatives in his apartment while sleeping on the floor. Having practice cut short so athletic facilities can be used for emergency relief effort. Guys going through practice & prep for ASU game while still wondering if their relatives WERE DEAD! Give 'em a break. They won the game. They didn't loose to a 41pt dog. ASU was pretty good that year and had u guys down at half time before USC flexed their muscles.

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when we beat Arkansas by more cumulative points than all of the rest of their losses combined.

Think I said I was impressed with that.

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As for # of ranked teams we beat last year that would be 3.

Oh, sorry. Excuse me.

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I think Cal would have been a ranked team in pretty much any other conference

Now that's hilarious. The wheels fell off on that team after the OR State loss. That was a classic melt down. 6 straight losses to end the season I think? Whatta meltdown. Yeah bowl eligable...IN THE SUNBELT??

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Stanford would have been bowl eligible in most other conferneces

Stanford L @ Miss State
Stanford L v VT
Stanford W v Midd Tn State
Stanford L v COCKS
Stanford W @ Tulane
Stanford L v Florida
Stanford L @ Kentucky
Stanford L v Auburn
Stanford L @ Alabama
Stanford W v La Tech
Stanford L v Ole Miss
Stanford L v Arkansas
Stanford L v Tennessee
Stanford L v Ohio State
3-11 with LSU's 2007 schedule. You're right. Bowl eligable.


Florida plays Florida State every year.

COCKS play Clemson every year.

UGA plays GA Tech every year. Worked Oklahoma State last year. Play ASU this year. (ASU will get worked).

Bama played FSU last year, Clemson this year.

Tennesse worked Cal 2 years ago, lost to Cal last year, play UCLA this year.

Auburn worked Wash State 2 years ago, Kansas State last year, play WVU this year.

LSU worked VT last year, worked AZ 2 years ago.

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Conversely we do get a boost in SOS because of it.


So we don't get a boost by our OOC schedules?? Like Notre Dame every year?? And again, who cares if u play a round robin in a shitty
conference?

Here's another one for ya: 161-55. That's the combined score SEC has won by in the last four BCS Bowl games. Including 2 National Championships!

Yeah, Stanford and Cal would really go bowling outta the SEC.

Just admit USC piles up wins in a weak assed conference.
Posted by Suck Out West
Phoenix, AZ
Member since Dec 2006
5932 posts
Posted on 7/31/08 at 7:20 pm to
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Arizona was complete garbage that season.


'07 Nebraska?
'07 Notre Dame?
'07 hack hack Stanford?

Like Lesticles said, "real powerhouses"
Posted by Suck Out West
Phoenix, AZ
Member since Dec 2006
5932 posts
Posted on 7/31/08 at 7:31 pm to
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+1. Almost poetic. Well done indeed.


Thx. I forgot Neyland with over 110,000 barefooted hillbilies listening to that annoying assed Rocky Top song 500 times.
Posted by L S Usetheforce
Member since Jun 2004
23242 posts
Posted on 7/31/08 at 7:39 pm to
You know its bad on the TIGER rant when you have to read a gay tirade between a trojan and buckeye!
Posted by kclsufan
Show Me
Member since Jun 2008
12099 posts
Posted on 7/31/08 at 8:21 pm to
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I did the calculation myself, using the Sagarin Archives. Just took the mean of USC's SOS the past 6 years...


and apparently for every SEC team as well.

And you guys say we're the one's who are obsessed.

BTW, Sagarin's methodology is secret and produces results that would be at times laughable were it not tied to the BCS where big $ are riding on his results.

But here's a simple formula we can all agree upon:

2 > 1.
Posted by LSURulzSEC
Lake Charles via Oakdale
Member since Aug 2004
79248 posts
Posted on 7/31/08 at 8:52 pm to
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Though it is harder to be a ranked team or become bowl eligible in the PAC-10 than any other conference due to everyone playing 9 conference games.


One, the Sagarin rankings are a joke...

Two...That "round robin" crap that USC and the media like to spew forth is just that, its crap...

all it means is that USC gets to pad their stats on the bottom feeders every year, well almost every year (Standford), and USC doesn't have to face a conference championship game with the possibility of having to face and beat a ranked team twice in one season as LSU had to do in '03 for example when LSU had to face top 10 ranked UGA twice in the same season to win the conference title...

And another thing, the winner and runner-up in the SEC play just as many conference games as the PAC does and its a little difficult to schedule 11 conference games in a season when there are 12 teams in the SEC...again, enough with the "round robin" crap...

Posted by kclsufan
Show Me
Member since Jun 2008
12099 posts
Posted on 7/31/08 at 9:10 pm to
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Two...That "round robin" crap that USC and the media like to spew forth is just that, its crap...

all it means is that USC gets to pad their stats on the bottom feeders every year, well almost every year (Standford), and USC doesn't have to face a conference championship game with the possibility of having to face and beat a ranked team twice in one season as LSU had to do in '03 for example when LSU had to face top 10 ranked UGA twice in the same season to win the conference title...

And another thing, the winner and runner-up in the SEC play just as many conference games as the PAC does and its a little difficult to schedule 11 conference games in a season when there are 12 teams in the SEC...again, enough with the "round robin" crap...


+1
Posted by MJRuffalo
Huntington Beach
Member since May 2008
6619 posts
Posted on 7/31/08 at 9:13 pm to
quote:

One, the Sagarin rankings are a joke...

Two...That "round robin" crap that USC and the media like to spew forth is just that, its crap...

all it means is that USC gets to pad their stats on the bottom feeders every year, well almost every year (Standford), and USC doesn't have to face a conference championship game with the possibility of having to face and beat a ranked team twice in one season as LSU had to do in '03 for example when LSU had to face top 10 ranked UGA twice in the same season to win the conference title...

And another thing, the winner and runner-up in the SEC play just as many conference games as the PAC does and its a little difficult to schedule 11 conference games in a season when there are 12 teams in the SEC...again, enough with the "round robin" crap...


You sound disturbed.

1. Explain reasonably in what way Sagarin's ratings are a joke as you say.

2. I am mearly pointing out a fact that with every team in the PAC-10 playing 9 conference games as opposed to 8, then the overall records of the conference will suffer therfore leading to less "ranked" teams. Simple math, well simple for most of us at least.
Posted by KillerNut9
Pearl Jam
Member since Dec 2007
34783 posts
Posted on 7/31/08 at 9:21 pm to
quote:

I have the feeling that some drunk Zero St. fan is going to go to far and end up getting knocked out.


Didn't your mother teach you violence never solves anything?
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