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re: Hannigrif says Orgeron made Canada makes changes by game 3.
Posted on 5/31/19 at 8:30 pm to RogerTheShrubber
Posted on 5/31/19 at 8:30 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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It is if they want to keep Jimbo. There's nine more years on that contract and nothing contractually holding him there.
9 years, you think Jimbo's planning his exit already?
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If the LSU job or Alabama job comes open you don't think it would be tempting.?
Well the job is taken here, and Alabama would go after Dabo.
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Posted on 5/31/19 at 8:31 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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So you don't think a bilateral buyout which is contained in most contracts is a big deal?
No, especially in this case
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If it isn't, why don't wee see far more of these unilateral buyouts?
Well maybe because other situations are different, dare I say context matters?
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The buyout s a pretty big mechanism to help protect the school.
Again it depends on the situation this is why you look at these things individually instead of treating every situation like it’s the same.
A school with more limited resources hiring an up and coming “hot” but unproven coach having a big buyout may make sense given the risk of leaving for a better job for more money is much greater. Think Matt Campbell at Iowa State
Posted on 5/31/19 at 8:33 pm to BayouBengals18
quote:I don't care that much about a QB's stats. This isn't baseball where a batting average, or a fielding average is fairly conclusive as to skill level.
Please post our offensive statistics, and how they compare to the rest of the country.
There are SO many variables in the passing game.
1) Can the WRs get loose and make all the standard catches.
2) Is the OL winning almost all the pass protection battles? Or losing most of them.
3) Does your OC have you in a scheme that is conducive to to high-percentage targets, or low-percentage targets.
4) Does your OC pass closer to 600 time a season or 350 times a season.
5) Is your schedule loaded with NFL caliber DBs or not so much.
etc & etc
So if you want to see horribly skewed QB stats, Google away! Be my guest!
This post was edited on 5/31/19 at 8:34 pm
Posted on 5/31/19 at 8:37 pm to Goldrush25
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9 years, you think Jimbo's planning his exit already?
I can almost guarantee he will not be there til the end. One way or another.
Posted on 5/31/19 at 8:42 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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If the LSU job or Alabama job comes open you don't think it would be tempting.?
Theoretically or realistically? I suppose the chance of him leaving for LSU could be a mild concern given his past interest in the job and ties to Woodward but that would also require a) That LSU completely tanks this year and next or b) O bolting for another job
after this year AND c) LSU offering more. I doubt he’s want to replace Saban and they will have other candidates and no not Dabo
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shite, the Cowboys job might tempt him in mid season and nothing holding him back
Aside from never showing any interest in the NFL, having no ties to Jones/Dallas and Dallas not paying him $100M sure.
Then again he might decide to run off with Ricky Williams follow Lenny Kravitz on your and smoke weed, nothing stopping him
Posted on 5/31/19 at 8:43 pm to Goldrush25
quote:Honestly, I think Jimbo is coming to LSU. LSU will agree to the same terms A&M did. And A&M can't do squat about it.
Well the job is taken here, and Alabama would go after Dabo.
And Orgeron will make one hell of an HC for some other SEC school. (South Carolina? Auburn?)
And will Jimbo be fat and happy for 8 years in BR? Or will he field championship teams here? Who really knows?
Maybe in 20. Maybe in 21. But I think he's coming. Just my opinion.
This post was edited on 5/31/19 at 8:45 pm
Posted on 5/31/19 at 8:43 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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I can almost guarantee he will not be there til the end. One way or another.
Does your almanac tell you that Biff
If he’s not there in 10 years that means it didn’t work. That doesn’t mean it wasn’t worth a shot.
This post was edited on 5/31/19 at 8:45 pm
Posted on 5/31/19 at 8:45 pm to Buckeye Jeaux
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Honestly, I think Jimbo is coming to LSU
Hey, I'm sold.
Posted on 5/31/19 at 8:47 pm to Goldrush25
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Hey, I'm sold.
Careful what you wish for...
Posted on 5/31/19 at 8:48 pm to Buckeye Jeaux
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Honestly, I think Jimbo is coming to LSU. LSU will agree to the same terms A&M did. And A&M can't do squat about it. And Orgeron will make one hell of an HC for some other SEC school. (South Carolina? Auburn?)
There’s basically zero chance those both happen. If Fisher comes to LSU that means O got fired which would mean be didn’t do good job here. Little chance USCe hires a 2 times failed coach and no way Auburn would.
This post was edited on 5/31/19 at 8:59 pm
Posted on 5/31/19 at 8:53 pm to H-Town Tiger
When's the last time a coach has ever gotten a third job without winning at least a division title?
EDIT: Lane Kiffin, his best friend. So it could happen.
EDIT: Lane Kiffin, his best friend. So it could happen.
This post was edited on 5/31/19 at 8:55 pm
Posted on 5/31/19 at 8:55 pm to H-Town Tiger
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There’s basically zero chance those both happen. If Fisher comes to LSU that means O got fired which would mean be didn’t do good job here. Little chance USCe hires a 2 tikes failed coach and no way Auburn would.
Not if some billionaire booster has a boner to bring Jimbo to BR. And from what I gather, a few do.
Posted on 5/31/19 at 8:56 pm to H-Town Tiger
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nothing stopping him
You seem to have finally picked up on something.
If he's not winning titles in 5 years, A$M will eat the 28-35 million buyout, or highly encourage him to look elsewhere. He's s contract is fully guaranteed though. They aren't investing that much for anything less.
Either way, with Woodward gone, I don't see Jimbo and the Aggies as a long term relationship
Posted on 5/31/19 at 8:59 pm to Goldrush25
quote:they'll be slobbering over his recruiting ability. THAT is a very rare attribute. Solid X&O coordinators are a dime a dozen. O can work thru a half dozen or so til he find a couple he likes.
When's the last time a coach has ever gotten a third job without winning at least a division title?
EDIT: Lane Kiffin, his best friend. So it could happen.
Posted on 5/31/19 at 9:01 pm to Buckeye Jeaux
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they'll be slobbering over his recruiting ability. THAT is a very rare attribute
You act like his recruiting ability is something new.
A bunch of SEC schools had 9 years to hire him after OM and didn't.
Recruiting ability is not some rare thing. The sport attracts people good at recruiting.
This post was edited on 5/31/19 at 9:04 pm
Posted on 5/31/19 at 9:03 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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If he's not winning titles in 5 years, A$M will eat the 28-35 million buyout, or highly encourage him to look elsewhere. He's s contract is fully guaranteed though. They aren't investing that much for anything less.
They don't have to eat anything to my knowledge. If Jimbo leaves for LSU, A&M owes nothing. But A&M also gets no buyout money from Jimbo or LSU.
This post was edited on 5/31/19 at 9:04 pm
Posted on 5/31/19 at 9:06 pm to Goldrush25
quote:He didn't field a top-6 team before. Not many CURRENT Top-10 coaches floating around - particularly ones who can recruit like O.
You act like his recruiting ability is something new.
A bunch of SEC schools had 9 years to hire him after OM and didn't
quote:Don't know where you're getting that... recruiting consistently at the top-10 level IS a rare thing - like 9 others, right? And almost all of them have gigs.
Recruiting ability is not some rare thing. The sport attracts people good at recruiting.
This post was edited on 5/31/19 at 9:14 pm
Posted on 5/31/19 at 9:11 pm to Buckeye Jeaux
Ok, you ask Auburn fans what they'll do if their administration tries to hire our coach.
3rd P5 job without winning a single division title? Not gonna happen.
3rd P5 job without winning a single division title? Not gonna happen.
This post was edited on 5/31/19 at 9:18 pm
Posted on 5/31/19 at 9:15 pm to Goldrush25
quote:O was a joke 2 years ago. (I thought so too) He ain't no joke no more.
Ok, you ask Auburn fans what they'll do if their administration tries to hire our coach.
Posted on 5/31/19 at 9:20 pm to Buckeye Jeaux
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If Jimbo leaves for LSU, A&M owes nothing.
It's a great gig for Jimbo. He doesn't even have to win at A$M to collect all 75 million. It's all guaranteed money, no settlement. But if he and the school get sideways, he can walk away any time he chooses.
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