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re: Hannigrif says Orgeron made Canada makes changes by game 3.

Posted on 5/29/19 at 4:36 pm to
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
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Posted on 5/29/19 at 4:36 pm to
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just don't think it's likely given his entire head coaching history. 


Well you make a lot of assumptions based on personal b0ias.

Theres no evidence to support your position
This post was edited on 5/29/19 at 4:38 pm
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 5/29/19 at 4:38 pm to
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Well you make a lot of assumptions based on personal b0ias.


I'm making an assumption based on the evidence of his entire career, which is perfectly rational.

I have no idea what you're basing your assumption on.

quote:

Theres no evidence to support your position


His own words support my position. He's admitted to meddling, with us and at OM, although you think that his time there is inadmissible.

Why are we going in circles?
This post was edited on 5/29/19 at 4:44 pm
Posted by Buckeye Jeaux
Member since May 2018
17756 posts
Posted on 5/29/19 at 4:38 pm to
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Nick is wildly successful.


Has more to do with his recruiting $kill$ and his pharma stockpiles than his offensive genius.

And the fact that the NCAA & SEC "looks the other way" on all things Saban. Not to mention the 7 extra "players" in black & white stripes he gets in every conference game.
Posted by Goldrush25
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Member since Oct 2012
33833 posts
Posted on 5/29/19 at 4:40 pm to
Well all of that is a convenient excuse as to why they've been so dominant.
Posted by Buckeye Jeaux
Member since May 2018
17756 posts
Posted on 5/29/19 at 4:41 pm to
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Well all of that is a convenient excuse as to why they've been so dominant.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
283290 posts
Posted on 5/29/19 at 4:43 pm to
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making an assumption based on the evidence of his entire career, 


That's called a bias.

Theres literally no evidence the offense changed over the course of the season.

If you can find any, you have a valid point.
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 5/29/19 at 4:45 pm to
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That's called a bias.



It's called an admission.

If someone suspected of killing someone says I killed someone, and I call him a killer, you would call it bias.
This post was edited on 5/29/19 at 4:45 pm
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
283290 posts
Posted on 5/29/19 at 4:46 pm to
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someone suspected of killing someone says I killed someone, and I call him a killer, you would call it bias. 


That's an absolutely retarded analogy.
This post was edited on 5/29/19 at 4:47 pm
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33833 posts
Posted on 5/29/19 at 4:47 pm to
You're making a low IQ argument right now. That's why no one is coming to your defense.

You're absolutely making no sense right now.

Please proceed though. This is like shooting fish in a barrel.

If someone admits to meddling in the offense, what else am I supposed to think of them?
This post was edited on 5/29/19 at 4:49 pm
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 5/29/19 at 4:49 pm to
You dont understand the difference between suspecting something may have happened and assuming it did happen.

You're making an assumption despite no evidence
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33833 posts
Posted on 5/29/19 at 4:50 pm to
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You dont understand the difference between suspecting something may have happened and assuming it did happen.

You're making an assumption despite no evidence



He. SAID. HE. MEDDLED. IN. THE. OFFENSE.

How much more do you need than that?

What you're suggesting, that it was an isolated incident, despite his admission of meddling prior to LSU and his bluster about being the boss later in that same season, is utterly ridiculous.
This post was edited on 5/29/19 at 4:52 pm
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 5/29/19 at 4:52 pm to
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He. SAID. HE. MEDDLED. IN. THE. OFFENSE. 


He said he eliminated some pre snap movements IN ONE GAME.

You claim that has to mean he was doing it all season.
Theres no evidence that occurred. Zip
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33833 posts
Posted on 5/29/19 at 4:55 pm to
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Theres no evidence that occurred. Zip



There is something called circumstantial evidence in law. It's not direct evidence (like his admission in the Troy game) because it requires an inference to come to a conclusion.

There is circumstantial evidence, both from his past as a coach at OM and that season, that suggests he was probably meddling outside of that one game.

I'm taking all of what we know about him into consideration. You're ignoring what doesn't jive with what you want to believe about him to come to your conclusion.
This post was edited on 5/29/19 at 4:58 pm
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
283290 posts
Posted on 5/29/19 at 4:57 pm to
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There is something called circumstantial evidence in law


@you thinking it applies here..

Orgeron said it was Canadas offense. The offense never changed.

Show me your evidence.
Posted by Buckeye Jeaux
Member since May 2018
17756 posts
Posted on 5/29/19 at 4:58 pm to
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He. SAID. HE. MEDDLED. IN. THE. OFFENSE.
Damn right O meddled. Canada was throwing the ball 29% of the time. That shite would have gotten O fired before the end of the season.

Everybody knew it. Canada especially, IMO.
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33833 posts
Posted on 5/29/19 at 4:59 pm to
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Orgeron said it was Canadas offense


He said those exact words in the post-game Troy press conference, so he's a liar. He completely contradicted himself.
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33833 posts
Posted on 5/29/19 at 5:00 pm to
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Damn right O meddled


Ok tell your buddy Shrubs then. He's having a hard time with this simple fact.
This post was edited on 5/29/19 at 5:00 pm
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
283290 posts
Posted on 5/29/19 at 5:01 pm to
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said those exact words in the post-game Troy press conference, so he's a liar. He completely contradicted himself.


This is why you were in the band.
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33833 posts
Posted on 5/29/19 at 5:02 pm to
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This is why you were in the band.



Ah, this is the classic Shrubs tap out.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
283290 posts
Posted on 5/29/19 at 5:03 pm to
What did orgeron say he did? Exact words
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