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re: Greatest Tiger by decade?

Posted on 12/5/16 at 5:51 pm to
Posted by fightntiger32
Member since Jan 2014
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Posted on 12/5/16 at 5:51 pm to
you are forgetting 2 of the greatest defensive players ever at LSU.

AJ Duhe 70's
Leonard Marshall 80's
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
71293 posts
Posted on 12/5/16 at 5:52 pm to
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Lf rushed for less than 150 yards jist 3 times.
Derrick henry rushed for less than 100 yards 5 times.


go look at the rush defenses of the teams fournette put up big yards against and vice versa. it would serve you well not to view everything in a vacuum. but, alas, you are pretty hopeless and clearly a very big LF fanboy who is incapable of rational thought
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
48018 posts
Posted on 12/5/16 at 5:53 pm to
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nfl GMs do not draft players based on their stats either. leonard may be more talented but he did not have a better season than henry
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They pay players off of stats.

Player's success is based off of production. Are you being serious roght now?
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
71293 posts
Posted on 12/5/16 at 5:54 pm to
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He played in more games.

he played better in his games against tougher competition. again, number of games is irrelevant. popular opinion is not affected by total number of games either. you know what henry didn't do? lay a giant egg in the biggest game of his life in november.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
48018 posts
Posted on 12/5/16 at 5:54 pm to
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go look at the rush defenses of the teams fournette put up big yards against and vice versa. i


You have to be kidding.

LF played in 3 less games.

Henry failed to get 100 yards 5 times.
Lf failed to get 150 yards 3 times.

Only a football novice would say Henry was better because he had more total yards.
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
71293 posts
Posted on 12/5/16 at 5:54 pm to
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They pay players off of stats.



when was the last time Patrick Peterson led any league in INTs? Please quit while you're behind
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
48018 posts
Posted on 12/5/16 at 5:55 pm to
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popular opinion is not affected by total number of games either. you know what henry didn't do? lay a giant egg in the biggest game of his life in november.



And there it is. Now we know why youre stupid. Please when did henry go up against Bama's defense? You dont understand football if you blame lf for the Bama games. But hey youve been stupid this entire thread.
This post was edited on 12/5/16 at 5:56 pm
Posted by lsu2006
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Posted on 12/5/16 at 5:56 pm to
To be fair, CB is probably the only non-line position where a player's value isn't necessarily shown in the stats. A great lockdown corner often won't have many INTs because no one will throw in his direction.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
48018 posts
Posted on 12/5/16 at 5:57 pm to
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when was the last time Patrick Peterson led any league in INTs


Wait youre really saying Patrick Peterson hasnt played to his contract? His play isnt what got him that contract?Lol god youre stupid. Whats sad is you think you're winning.
This post was edited on 12/5/16 at 5:59 pm
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
48018 posts
Posted on 12/5/16 at 5:58 pm to
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To be fair, CB is probably the only non-line position where a player's value isn't necessarily shown in the stats. A great lockdown corner often won't have many INTs because no one will throw in his direction.


Let him continue to be stupid. Please. I love getting these crazy people out in the open.

This post was edited on 12/5/16 at 5:59 pm
Posted by rjokerlsu
Big Spring, TX
Member since Apr 2007
7299 posts
Posted on 12/5/16 at 5:58 pm to
Don't know how far back you want to go, but those who have researched the history of this period, 1900-1910, easily Doc Fenton, who led the Tigers to an unbeaten record in 1908.

No Heisman Trophy existed then, but Fenton surely would have won it easily if it did.
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
71293 posts
Posted on 12/5/16 at 5:59 pm to
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You have to be kidding.

LF played in 3 less games.

Henry failed to get 100 yards 5 times.
Lf failed to get 150 yards 3 times.

Only a football novice would say Henry was better because he had more total yards.

I think you're too stupid to even have a discussion with. Look at the rush defenses each played. Then compare how many yards each had against the top 5 rush defenses each played. Stop focusing on total number of games. I know it's difficult to think outside the box, but I'm making it really easy for you. Leonard had sub 100 yard games on the top 3 rush defenses he played (Ole Miss, Aarkansas, Alabama). Henry put up 210 against LSU, 147 against Wisconsin, 95 against Arkansas, 127 on Ole Miss, and 189 on Florida. Fournette had his biggest games against terrible defenses (Syracyse, Auburn, Texas tech, Eastern Michigan).
This post was edited on 12/5/16 at 6:00 pm
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
71293 posts
Posted on 12/5/16 at 6:01 pm to
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Wait youre really saying Patrick Peterson hasnt played to his contract? His play isnt what got him that contract?Lol god youre stupid. Whats sad is you think you're winning.

I thought he was paid for his stats though? I never said any of what you just assumed. I responded to a very direct comment made by you, which was ignorant. Players are not drafted by stats, never have been
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
48018 posts
Posted on 12/5/16 at 6:02 pm to
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p 3 rush defenses he played (Ole Miss, Aarkansas, Alabama


If you knew football youd know being down so quick is what took lf out of arky game. He had 4.8 ypc. better than Henry's 3.5. Educate yourself
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
48018 posts
Posted on 12/5/16 at 6:03 pm to
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thought he was paid for his stats though? I never said any of what you just assumed. I responded to a very direct comment made by you, which was ignorant. Players are not drafted by stats, never have been


And again, cbs is the position where if you play well you dont get chances to make ints. The fact that you act like lack of ints means a cb isnt playing well enough to earn a contract is telling.
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
71293 posts
Posted on 12/5/16 at 6:03 pm to
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Educate yourself

I think you need to educate yourself. Henry came up biggest when it mattered most. Leonard feasted off of weak teams. It's sad but true, whether you care to admit it or not
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
71293 posts
Posted on 12/5/16 at 6:04 pm to
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And again, cbs is the position where if you play well you dont get chances to make ints. The fact that you act like lack of ints means a cb isnt playing well enough to earn a contract is telling.

I never said that Your quote
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They pay players off of stats.


this is a false statement
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
48018 posts
Posted on 12/5/16 at 6:06 pm to
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Players are not drafted by stats, never have been


Please point to where i said players are drafted by stats. At no time dod i ever say that. I said a players level of success is determined by production and stats. I said GM PAY players for stats.generally Nfl players that dont produce dont get big contracts.

Players that dont produce statistically arent considered successful. Why is tim tebow and cam newton considered 2 of the best? Why are you saying henry was better than lf?
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
48018 posts
Posted on 12/5/16 at 6:07 pm to
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this is a false statement


So the size of a players 2nd contract isnt tied to production?

Posted by lsu2006
BR
Member since Feb 2004
40086 posts
Posted on 12/5/16 at 6:07 pm to
I think he's arguing that in the NFL a player will get paid on his 2nd contract based largely on his statistical production in the NFL. Obviously college stats aren't very important to NFL GMs when drafting - more about potential, because as you've pointed out, stats can be skewed based on beating up on a bad team but getting stopped by a good one
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