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re: Give Les a ‘little’ credit?

Posted on 1/16/20 at 9:21 pm to
Posted by LSU Bayou Tiger
Member since Dec 2019
681 posts
Posted on 1/16/20 at 9:21 pm to
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ou said Miles backed into a championship and I asked if YOU thought they backed into the #6 ranking. I believe that both teams earned their positions due to the results on the field that season.


Indeed, as I more than proved, there is no moral equivalency there. As LSU in 2007 lucked out big time and backed its way into the natty title game with one of the best teams Nick Saban had ever recruited and after everyone thought LSU was out of it. Until West Virginia choked big time to a very mediocre Pittsburgh team.

Meanwhile. LSU was the only team in 2018 to beat four teams ranked in the AP Top Ten Poll. Put down the crack pipe!

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I never disagreed about the 2011 championship game. You're just all over the place trying to justify one opinion on Coach O while not applying the same logic to Miles.



There you go again, just like a delusional leftist trying to morally equate Les Miles with Ed O. Sorry, there is no moral equivalence there. As Les Miles is completely and totally incompetent, while Ed O is one of the best head coaches in college football today.
Posted by TigerLunatik
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jan 2005
104566 posts
Posted on 1/16/20 at 9:27 pm to
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Indeed, as I more than proved

All of you've done is made a complete arse of yourself.
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As LSU in 2007 lucked out big time and backed its way into the natty title game with one of the best teams Nick Saban had ever recruited

Oh this is good. Let's get into this. So if Saban recruited the team 3 years after he left, then surely you think that Miles recruited the 2019 team 3 years after he left, right?
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There you go again, just like a delusional leftist trying to morally equate Les Miles with Ed O. Sorry, there is no moral equivalence there.

Who the frick is talking about morals? We are talking football. Well, at least I am. You're spewing a bunch of ridiculous nonsense about how coaches can't be held accountable for the players going thr wrong way or missing tackles. So, I guess Miles can't be held responsible for Peyton Hillis running in long touchdowns. I mean, how was he supposed to know that would happen?

Eta: fricking anchor. I'm sure we will continue this again.
This post was edited on 1/16/20 at 9:30 pm
Posted by LSU Bayou Tiger
Member since Dec 2019
681 posts
Posted on 1/16/20 at 9:32 pm to
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Another lazy argument. I like Orgeron as a coach much more than I ever liked Miles. Your "how was he supposed to know" excuses could just as easily be applied to any loss by any coach ever.


Your response is so specious and ludicrous, that it isn't even worthy of a response.

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You brought up Guice going the wrong way.


You're confused again as always. Guise was recuperating from an ACL injury in 2018. As he was a member of the Washington Redskins. However, in the 2016 game and the same game that idiot was referring to, Guise went the wrong way and because he went the wrong way, LSU ended up losing that game, not in 2018, but in 2016. Hello!

And, of course, you're still absolutely oblivious with respect to the Moo State and Troy State games.

Meanwhile, the only one that is contradictory is you, cause you are too severely mentally handicapped to keep up.
Posted by TigerLunatik
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jan 2005
104566 posts
Posted on 1/16/20 at 9:38 pm to
You've gotten confused about the Guice thing. Maybe it was just a typo, but you mentioned what happened with Guice and referenced the 2018 Florida game at the same time which is why I went back to clarify. Next time we discuss these type things try to come up with something better than the hater argument. Its lazy and dumb and I could just as easily turn around and say that you hate Miles which is silly.
Posted by TigerLunatik
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jan 2005
104566 posts
Posted on 1/16/20 at 9:42 pm to
Here's what I'm talking about...
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There were a number of LSU players injured and out for those two games against Moo State and Troy state. If you are too damn stupid to believe me, then go back and check. 

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Wouldn't that same logic suggest that LSU shouldn't have gone down to the wire vs an injury plagued Gator team?



If any team was injury-riddled in that 2018 Florida game, it was LSU. As we had several starters that didn't play in that game. However, all except one of them returned just in time for the UGA game the following week.

LINK
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
48018 posts
Posted on 1/16/20 at 9:43 pm to
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Defend defend defend....


peej you're over 60 and still havent learned the difference between OBJECTIVE FACTS and defending.

these are FACTS and are in no way defending....
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2011 had the 3rd undefeated sec title in the last 50 previous lsu seasons with zero help from saban. 


he also took a OSU program with 1 non losing season in the previous 11 years and had them winning 7,8,9 games. 
Posted by TigerLunatik
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jan 2005
104566 posts
Posted on 1/16/20 at 9:45 pm to
Holy shite. Ricky would enjoy the ramblings of Space Clownboy. Go back and read this shite.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
48018 posts
Posted on 1/16/20 at 9:48 pm to
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And, of course, you're still absolutely oblivious with respect to the Moo State and Troy State game


you mean the games where lsu had...

nfl drafted...
qb
2 rbs
2 wrs
olineman
te
and a defense littered with future nfl players?

the time lsu had a 55-0 4 and 5 star players advantage over Troy?
the time lsu had a 55-16 4 and 5 star advantage over Miss. St.?


look O has finally reached the mountain top so you can stop acting like 2017 wasnt a massive underachievement.


it was proven that coaching and scheme limited our 2018 offense and you can admit coaching and scheme was the main reason those teams got the better of lsu.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
48018 posts
Posted on 1/16/20 at 9:51 pm to
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As LSU in 2007 lucked out big time and backed its way into the natty title game with one of the best teams Nick Saban had ever recruited and after everyone thought LSU was out of it. Until West Virginia choked big time to a very mediocre Pittsburgh team.


is this the same logic you use for Saban's 2001 sec title?
is this the same logic you use for O's 3 loss #6 ranking in 2018?

wanna guess how many times the top ranked 3 loss team made it #6?
2012 lsu was also the top ranked 3 loss team but that was a year where the too ranked 3 loss team was 12th.
Posted by TigerLunatik
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jan 2005
104566 posts
Posted on 1/16/20 at 9:53 pm to
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is this the same logic you use for O's 3 loss #6 ranking in 2018?

Already tried that. He says there is no "moral equivalency" between the two. It's mind boggling hilarious.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
48018 posts
Posted on 1/16/20 at 9:53 pm to
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As Les Miles is completely and totally incompetent, while Ed O is one of the best head coaches in college football toda


it's amazing watching you be football ignorant on a consistent basis.
please explain what you use to rank O as one of the best coaches in cfb. then explain how Miles being more accomplished than O means he is incompetent.
This post was edited on 1/16/20 at 9:57 pm
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
48018 posts
Posted on 1/16/20 at 9:56 pm to
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Already tried that. He says there is no "moral equivalency" between the two. It's mind boggling hilarious.





there is a set of posters that truly hate Miles. he is amongst them.

I'm just baffled how such incompetence can have the most accomplished tenure ever at the program he supposedly loves. it's cute watching them use a single season of accomplishments to label O's career has one of the best coaches in cfb but then dismiss the more accomplished career resume of miles. its hypocrisy at its finest.
Posted by TigerLunatik
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jan 2005
104566 posts
Posted on 1/16/20 at 9:58 pm to
You realize that's Space Cowboy that you're dealing with, right?
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
48018 posts
Posted on 1/16/20 at 9:58 pm to
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You realize that's Space Cowboy that you're dealing with, rig


wow.... I hadnt realized that. make sense now though
Posted by TigerLunatik
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jan 2005
104566 posts
Posted on 1/16/20 at 10:03 pm to
Same shite with the Troy and State loss being Miles' fault and he's got the moreover, indeed kinda shite going.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
48018 posts
Posted on 1/17/20 at 12:07 am to
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So much for a championship exercising the demons of 1/9/12. Some of these chumps are just as miserable today as they were then.


the sad part is that 2011 was the 5th best season in lsu history.
i put 2011 directly behind 1958,2003,2007,2019.
2011 has a better margin of victory than 2019.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
48018 posts
Posted on 1/17/20 at 12:13 am to
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Give him credit for demolishing a Championship Program and all the heavy lifting to get there


if by destroying you mean had the most accomplished tenure in lsu history, then yeah.

miles took over a program with 2 top 5 finishes in the previous 45 years of lsu football and proceeded to have 4 top 5 finishes in 7 years.
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