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re: For everyone blaming CPM for pulling Bouman Sunday, please read this
Posted on 6/3/14 at 7:43 am to PurpleAndGold86
Posted on 6/3/14 at 7:43 am to PurpleAndGold86
U made a reference how the board would feel if he went out and gave up runs. Paul left a couple pitchers out there too long but it wasn't a pitcher who threw only 60 pitches and gave up 2 hits.
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Posted on 6/3/14 at 7:44 am to PurpleAndGold86
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if you have a game plan in mind
Why does it seem like were the only fans that have to suffer from having coaches that are too willing to stick with faulty game plans?
Posted on 6/3/14 at 7:47 am to lsuhunt555
what if the coaches let cartwright keep chugging along last night after the first three batters?
I mean, statistics say he can give the team more than 0.0 innings
no rational fan would be in favor of keeping cartwright in last night after that atrocious start, just like no rational fan should be in favor of pulling a pitcher that just gave you 6 shut down inning, 2 hit ball with 62 pitches.
I expect the coaches to pull a pitcher like cartwright and leave a pitcher like bouman.
I mean, statistics say he can give the team more than 0.0 innings
no rational fan would be in favor of keeping cartwright in last night after that atrocious start, just like no rational fan should be in favor of pulling a pitcher that just gave you 6 shut down inning, 2 hit ball with 62 pitches.
I expect the coaches to pull a pitcher like cartwright and leave a pitcher like bouman.
Posted on 6/3/14 at 7:48 am to OutofTownAlumni
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Paul left a couple pitchers out there too long but it wasn't a pitcher who threw only 60 pitches and gave up 2 hits.
Well no he didn't leave Bouman in too long. Where the hell did I say he did. But I don't think it was a bad decision and I'm certainly capable of realizing that it did not cost us that game.
Leaving in McCune too long? That cost us the game...
Posted on 6/3/14 at 7:50 am to mylsuhat
I have way more of a problem with Broussard not pitching the 8th and 9th than when Bouman was pulled out.
This post was edited on 6/3/14 at 7:51 am
Posted on 6/3/14 at 7:50 am to PurpleAndGold86
It cost is big time. Look at what Houston did last night! There coach left that guy in too long but we couldn't hit him. He killed us.
Posted on 6/3/14 at 7:51 am to PurpleAndGold86
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Leaving in McCune too long? That cost us the game...
I think it was a combination of pulling bouman and leaving mccune in too long. is that fair?
I just KNEW mccune was getting pulled after loading up the bases... was shocked when they let him stay...
Posted on 6/3/14 at 7:54 am to Hat Tricks
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I have way more of a problem with Broussard not pitching the 8th and 9th than when Bouman was pulled out.
This I agree with. Or at the very least used a combination of Person and Fury to get through the 8th.
Posted on 6/3/14 at 7:55 am to PurpleAndGold86
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I didn't include any stats,
Apologies, P&G86. I was viewing from my phone and lumped you in with the OP. Still completely disagree with your logic of avoiding this dreaded 3rd round through the lineup, but I apologize for pinning the stats on you.
Posted on 6/3/14 at 7:57 am to OutofTownAlumni
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There coach left that guy in too long but we couldn't hit him. He killed us.
I mean he faced ONE hitter and then they gave him a 7 run lead. If we had a 7 run lead the night before I would be hammering PM for taking Bouman out...is that better?
Posted on 6/3/14 at 7:58 am to monsterballads
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I think it was a combination of pulling bouman and leaving mccune in too long. is that fair?
Meh, I'm just not a believer that pulling Bouman too early in some fans' eyes cost us the game. He could have just as easily gone out there and lost the 1 run lead.
McCune in through the 8th is what gives me the redass.
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I just KNEW mccune was getting pulled after loading up the bases... was shocked when they let him stay...
This x infinity
Posted on 6/3/14 at 7:59 am to barry
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That was never the problem, it was sending McCune back out for a 2nd inning, letting him load them up and leave him out there
This. Even with the shutout Bouman was getting shelled. No strikeouts and their shots just kept finding our guys. A lot of hard hit outs.
Posted on 6/3/14 at 8:02 am to Putty
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No strikeouts and their shots just kept finding our guys. A lot of hard hit outs.
Worked really well for Houston.
Posted on 6/3/14 at 8:04 am to lsuhunt555
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Worked really well for Houston.
Yeah, except their reliever that pitched 6.1 innings had 8 strikeouts and a 7 run lead.
Solid point.
Posted on 6/3/14 at 8:06 am to Putty
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This. Even with the shutout Bouman was getting shelled. No strikeouts and their shots just kept finding our guys. A lot of hard hit outs.
Actually he had them hitting a lot of pop ups which is the name of the game in today's college baseball.
Posted on 6/3/14 at 8:07 am to PurpleAndGold86
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I mean he faced ONE hitter and then they gave him a 7 run lead. If we had a 7 run lead the night before I would be hammering PM for taking Bouman out...is that better?
We had a 4 run lead.
Posted on 6/3/14 at 8:08 am to monsterballads
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I think it was a combination of pulling bouman and leaving mccune in too long.
A third factor everybody's overlooking: he had nobody out there behind Broussard warming up when he got in trouble. He made the decision to live or die with Broussard and take his chances the next night.
Posted on 6/3/14 at 8:09 am to OutofTownAlumni
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We had a 4 run lead.
Wrong. We had a 1-0 lead.
McCune pitched the top of the 7th inning and we scored our 3 tack on runs in the bottom of the 7th inning.
Posted on 6/3/14 at 8:12 am to mylsuhat
As others said, pulling a guy cruising on 62 pitches and 2 hits better work out, or else it's on you.
You're the coach, you get the credit and the blame. You had two innings to go and a 4 run lead, and now the season's over in humiliating fashion.
You're the coach, you get the credit and the blame. You had two innings to go and a 4 run lead, and now the season's over in humiliating fashion.
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