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re: Film Study - Josh Dworaczyk Dominated Jadeveon Clowney
Posted on 8/12/13 at 3:07 pm to KG5989
Posted on 8/12/13 at 3:07 pm to KG5989
quote:
jadaveon clowney = mario williams has it allbut will continue to fall short.
No.
You laughing at the comparison of the "fall short"?
Because the comparison is pretty legit.
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Posted on 8/12/13 at 3:11 pm to Noplacelikehome
Laughing at the fall short part. Size and position comparison is legit. But I think Clowney is more comparable to Julius Peppers. And if the reports are all true, hes faster than Peppers.
Posted on 8/12/13 at 3:12 pm to Shiftyplus1
I freakin love that play
Posted on 8/12/13 at 3:25 pm to KG5989
quote:
Laughing at the fall short part. Size and position comparison is legit. But I think Clowney is more comparable to Julius Peppers. And if the reports are all true, hes faster than Peppers.
Either one is a legit comparison. I don't think Clowney will (or will want to) ever get to the size of Williams.
Posted on 8/12/13 at 3:30 pm to Noplacelikehome
in fairness it was a 6th yr senior against a true sophomore. It was a good performance by JD but lets not carried away.
Posted on 8/12/13 at 3:39 pm to Mobiletiger
Can't believe Maximus hasn't posted in this thread yet
This post was edited on 8/12/13 at 3:40 pm
Posted on 8/12/13 at 3:40 pm to Shiftyplus1
damn shame it didnt pan out
Posted on 8/12/13 at 3:52 pm to Pintail
quote:
I freakin love that play
I expected this play to be talked about more. I think this play got to him pretty good that night. Slowed him down on the edge for sure.
Posted on 8/12/13 at 3:54 pm to JGTiger
That was a hell of a call in that game.
Posted on 8/12/13 at 4:11 pm to KG5989
Laughing at the fall short part. Size and position comparison is legit. But I think Clowney is more comparable to Julius Peppers. And if the reports are all true, hes faster than Peppers.
clowney has potenial just cant see him taking another step.. if clowney really runs a legit 4.5 40 put him at olb in a 3-4 scheme..
clowney has potenial just cant see him taking another step.. if clowney really runs a legit 4.5 40 put him at olb in a 3-4 scheme..
Posted on 8/12/13 at 4:19 pm to TigerTerez0307
quote:
clowney has potenial just cant see him taking another step
What?? Why??
So a guy that is 6'7 275lbs and runs in the 4.5 range, loaded with talent and ability, wont take another step?? And hes not just a freak athlete. Hes a hell of a football player. He had 54 tackles, 13 sacks, and 23.5 TFL, which is absurd. Also had 3 FF, 5 QB Hurries, and 2 batted balls down. Despite being double or triple teamed in every game. If anything, hes just started to scratch the surface of his talent and ability. Hes not near being topped out.
This post was edited on 8/12/13 at 4:33 pm
Posted on 8/12/13 at 4:31 pm to goldenbadger08
quote:He was silent as a church mouse.
I don't even remember Clowney being in the game.
Posted on 8/12/13 at 4:33 pm to KG5989
quote:
So a guy that is 6'7 275lbs and runs in the 4.5 range, loaded with talent and ability, wont take another step?? If anything, hes just started to scratch the surface of his talent and ability. Hes not near being topped out.
He is 6"6 and runs in the 4.4 range!
Posted on 8/12/13 at 4:52 pm to KG5989
Despite being double or triple teamed in every game.
this statement is false, and wrong on so many levels.
this statement is false, and wrong on so many levels.
Posted on 8/12/13 at 5:02 pm to TigerTerez0307
No. No its not. He was double or tripled team most of the time in every game. Double teamed especially. Might not be a "true double team", with 2 OL. But, he always had a tackle on him and a RB picking him up / chipping him.
Still never told me why you think he wont take another step...??
Still never told me why you think he wont take another step...??
This post was edited on 8/12/13 at 5:12 pm
Posted on 8/12/13 at 5:16 pm to KG5989
quote:
Rewatch the game. While he didnt have big numbers stat wise, he was very disruptive. I completely agree that we did a great job at slowing him down. But dont even remember him being in the game?? Rewatch it. I watched it when it came on CST a few weeks ago. He was extremely disruptive and made a lot of plays possible for his teammates. Took on multiple blockers, forcing the RB to go 1 way, batted passes down, put pressure on the QB and RB. He was pretty much triple teamed every play, but did a damn good job at taking on the blockers and just being disruptive. He had 6 tackles and batted down 2 balls. Despite being triple teamed majority of the night. Pretty solid.
We did the best neutralizing him, but the guy was still extremely disruptive and effective without making the play. He def "wowed" me.
He was so disruptive that we had one of our best total offensive yards performances--406 yards. By way of example, everyone loves up on the Alabama offensive performance. We had 435 yards of total offense in that game. He didn't cause any disruption. The scheme worked and his teammates didn't help him or take advantage at all.
Posted on 8/12/13 at 5:30 pm to therick711
So you expect 1 player, and a DE for that matter, single handily shut down an offense and their total production all by himself?? Was it just Clowney that gave up 406 yards to us?? If it was, then its pretty impressive 1 guy could keep us at just 406 yards. Yea... makes sense. Good call. Sorry 1 guy couldnt make all the tackles.
Youre either blind or dont know football if you dont think he was disruptive. Im telling you go rewatch the game and watch Clowney. He was very disruptive. We did a great job of neutralizing him and keeping him at bay. Better than every other team that played SC last year. But, while he didnt have great #s at the end of the game, he was all over the place and was extremely disruptive. Im not saying he dominated the game and was unblockable or anything like that. Just saying he wrecked havoc a lot of times out there and didnt make the play because he had guys all over him. We did a good job at keeping him from making the tackle or sack. But, he still wrecked a lot of havoc out there and blew plays up, causing the RB to bounce it somewhere else or causing a QB to change his throwing motion when passing.
Youre either blind or dont know football if you dont think he was disruptive. Im telling you go rewatch the game and watch Clowney. He was very disruptive. We did a great job of neutralizing him and keeping him at bay. Better than every other team that played SC last year. But, while he didnt have great #s at the end of the game, he was all over the place and was extremely disruptive. Im not saying he dominated the game and was unblockable or anything like that. Just saying he wrecked havoc a lot of times out there and didnt make the play because he had guys all over him. We did a good job at keeping him from making the tackle or sack. But, he still wrecked a lot of havoc out there and blew plays up, causing the RB to bounce it somewhere else or causing a QB to change his throwing motion when passing.
This post was edited on 8/12/13 at 5:34 pm
Posted on 8/12/13 at 5:37 pm to KG5989
quote:
So you expect 1 player, and a DE for that matter, single handily shut down an offense and their total production all by himself?? Was it just Clowney that gave up 406 yards to us?? If it was, then its pretty impressive 1 guy could keep us at just 406 yards. Yea... makes sense. Good call. Sorry 1 guy couldnt make all the tackles.
Youre either blind or dont know football if you dont think he was disruptive. Im telling you go rewatch the game and watch Clowney. He was very disruptive. We did a great job of neutralizing him and keeping him at bay. Better than every other team that played SC last year. But, while he didnt have great #s at the end of the game, he was all over the place and was extremely disruptive. Im not saying he dominated the game and was unblockable or anything like that. Just saying he wrecked havoc a lot of times out there and didnt make the play because he had guys all over him. We did a good job at keeping him from making the tackle or sack. But, he still wrecked a lot of havoc out there and blew plays up, causing the RB to bounce it somewhere else or causing a QB to change his throwing motion when passing.
You can't read. You argued he was disruptive. I just proved to you he didn't disrupt anything. LSU was as good as it had been all year. No one said he had to shut them down. YOU were the one who argued how disruptive he was. He was so disruptive that LSU was better on that day than they were on average for the whole year by 30 yards of total offense. LSU had 250 yards rushing with just about a 5 ypc average. The evidence suggests you are wrong.
to you anyway. You want to know who disrupted LSU, watch Malliciah Goodman in the bowl game. That is a guy who caused Vidal Alexander all kinds of problems.
This post was edited on 8/12/13 at 5:42 pm
Posted on 8/12/13 at 5:40 pm to Mobiletiger
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in fairness it was a 6th yr senior against a true sophomore. It was a good performance by JD but lets not carried away.
A redshirt freshman won the Heisman last year. I don't think the class designation matters much when you're talking about someone who was widely considered one of the top 3-5 DEs last year and definitely the top DE this year.
Posted on 8/12/13 at 5:41 pm to therick711
Your argument is invalid. 1 guy, and a DE, cant shut down an entire teams production for an entire game... what dont you get about that? Defenses work as a unit. We had a great game offensively, therefore Clowney wasnt disruptive... Such a fallacy.
This post was edited on 8/12/13 at 5:43 pm
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