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re: Eric Reid's quote
Posted on 6/2/11 at 1:53 pm to GeorgeTheGreek
Posted on 6/2/11 at 1:53 pm to GeorgeTheGreek
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My response is, i've never EVER heard of a star player (whom i'm assuming you want to pay because your argument is they make money for the school. 5th string DB doesn't ... but anyway) financially struggling. Besides all the shite LSU gives them, they are often taken care of by the community. Their star status lends them the freedom to live a very good life while in college.
Then your ignorance is established. I know of and have witnessed financial hardships of players......
My opinion is that kids who qualify for money (extended Pell Grant so to speak) should get it. It should be truly based on need.
George, make no mistake. These student-athletes do make a sacrifice beyond the field. And, before you get into the "it's a priviledge to even be a player", most of you couldn't do it.
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Posted on 6/2/11 at 1:56 pm to Bubba Hotep
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I think what they get now is plenty. They get thousands of dollars in free tutoring alone that is not even counted in their benefits. They also get high paying summer jobs that few students have access to.
I think the entire argument is a joke.
Care to know what 85% of the "high paying" jobs are? They are back-breaking labor jobs for Bernhard Mechanical, Cajun, Performance,_________, etc. They are jobs most college kids are terrified of.
Those cush office runner jobs are for a small handful.
ETA: I cannot fricking stand righteous monkeydicks who have not one clue of what the system is truly like. Don't assume shite.
This post was edited on 6/2/11 at 1:59 pm
Posted on 6/2/11 at 1:58 pm to CharlesLSU
And to those saying "athletes get high paying summer jobs at car dealerships that no one else does", that is flat out wrong. Athletes are only allowed to work within a qualified Work/Study program. You can only get those jobs based on need and there is a limited availability. The system has been abused by schools like Oklahoma, but that isn't the type of jobs most of these athletes have.
Posted on 6/2/11 at 2:08 pm to GeorgeTheGreek
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So while many many students have to take out loans and leave college with huge debt,
Those students don't generate millions of dollars for the school either.
Posted on 6/2/11 at 2:12 pm to SaintLSUnAtl
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Those students don't generate millions of dollars for the school either.
Nor are they exceptionally talented at something that would get them grant money that they don't have to pay back. The top 5% of all students get the same "free" aid that football players get. It is something granted to those who are exceptional in their field.
Posted on 6/2/11 at 2:18 pm to CharlesLSU
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I cannot fricking stand righteous monkeydicks who have not one clue of what the system is truly like. Don't assume shite.
You don't know anything about me or what I know.
As I said before, this entire argument is a complete joke because it will never happen. Most college athletic programs would go bankrupt paying the athletes just a few hundred a month.
Title IX will not allow only paying football and basketball players. You will have to pay gymnasts, etc., the same.
We should be discussing something that has a better chance of happening, like colonizing Mars.
Posted on 6/2/11 at 2:29 pm to Bubba Hotep
Just add $1 to every ticket price for every sporting event at every university. Take all those $1 at each event and divide the pot equally among all active athletes (from both teams) for said event. For and LSU/Auburn game, for example, sold out, would mean $92,400, divided among 170 players (85 per team), equaling $543.53 per player that day.
It would not create any more bias towards a school or sport that doesn't already exist, but may encourage teams/fan bases of smaller schools or lower profile sports to compete harder for more attendance at thier events.
It would not create any more bias towards a school or sport that doesn't already exist, but may encourage teams/fan bases of smaller schools or lower profile sports to compete harder for more attendance at thier events.
Posted on 6/2/11 at 2:55 pm to SaintLSUnAtl
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Those students don't generate millions of dollars for the school either.
Then how much more would you like to pay them? They already receive 25K a year in scholarship money, 10,000 in cost of living, books and food .... 35K a year.
35K x 4 = $140,000
For a non-professional athlete, i think 140,000 over four years is plenty. How much more would you like them to receive?
And for the idiots that said AJ Green wouldn't be suspended and Tressel would still be employed if players got paid....
People are always gonna break the rules. People always want more. Also, how would a school like UTEP compete? They don't generate near the same income as LSU from football. You eliminate all mid-major schools and even some BCS schools by mandating equal pay across the board for Division I-A football. Also, NONE of their players generate what an LSU quarterback would generate ... but you still have to pay them the same.
This doesn't even get into paying non-football sports. It's a huge mess and if you're in favor of it you really are a bit out of touch.
This post was edited on 6/2/11 at 3:03 pm
Posted on 6/2/11 at 3:02 pm to TheHound
That won't work. That would result in athletes in more popular sports getting paid more. That would be a violation of Federal Law.
Posted on 6/2/11 at 3:03 pm to GeorgeTheGreek
I agree 100 percent.
Posted on 6/2/11 at 3:09 pm to GeorgeTheGreek
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And for the idiots that said AJ Green wouldn't be suspended and Tressel would still be employed if players got paid....
It would prevent a lot. The status quo makes it far more likely that this type of thing occurs.
Posted on 6/2/11 at 3:10 pm to GeorgeTheGreek
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It's a huge mess and if you're in favor of it you really are a bit out of touch.
I think you have it precisely backwards. You are out of touch.
Posted on 6/2/11 at 3:11 pm to TxTiger82
Maybe, i'm really not so sure. These player feel really entitled today. It may curb some, but i think it would be far from a solution. Very far.
Posted on 6/2/11 at 3:13 pm to GeorgeTheGreek
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These player feel really entitled today.
See, I think that is you projecting what you want to believe onto others.
90% of college football players walk a straight line, go to class, go to practice, stay out of trouble, and never make it to the pros.
Posted on 6/2/11 at 3:14 pm to GeorgeTheGreek
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but i think it would be far from a solution. Very far.
Depends on what you are trying to solve. Again, will this stop a Cam Newton type situation? No, clearly not.
Posted on 6/2/11 at 3:14 pm to TxTiger82
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I think you have it precisely backwards. You are out of touch.
BOOM!
Answer me these three questions:
1. How do you think mid-major Divison 1-A programs would financially be able to pay players and stay on a level playing field with BCS schools?
2. How much should the players be paid? They already make 35K a year. So how much more?
3. Should a second string Offensive Lineman make the same as a star running back? Why or why not?
and again, we're still not touching paying other sports.
If you can answer those three no problem, you have my attention.
Posted on 6/2/11 at 3:16 pm to TxTiger82
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See, I think that is you projecting what you want to believe onto others.
90% of college football players walk a straight line, go to class, go to practice, stay out of trouble, and never make it to the pros.
We were talking about AJ Green and maybe a guy like Terelle Pryor. Not straight-laced goody good athletes. I'm not projecting anything. But the guys that break the rules already feel entitled. At least many do.
Posted on 6/2/11 at 3:17 pm to GeorgeTheGreek
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How do you think mid-major Divison 1-A programs would financially be able to pay players and stay on a level playing field with BCS schools?
It actually wouldn't cost all that much. See below.
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How much should the players be paid? They already make 35K a year. So how much more?
Like $750 a month. Spending money. To have fun. Over 9 months that is less than $7,000 a year.
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Should a second string Offensive Lineman make the same as a star running back? Why or why not?
Yes. Every scholarship football player gets the same amount. Period.
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we're still not touching paying other sports.
True. This is your best point, IMO.
Posted on 6/2/11 at 3:17 pm to GeorgeTheGreek
Posted on 6/2/11 at 3:17 pm to GeorgeTheGreek
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We were talking about AJ Green and maybe a guy like Terelle Pryor. Not straight-laced goody good athletes.
What did Green ever do besides sell his jersey for some spending money?
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