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re: Did Miles' handling of Lee help or hurt your opinion of him (Miles)

Posted on 11/20/11 at 2:20 pm to
Posted by Deathrider
Member since Aug 2010
3675 posts
Posted on 11/20/11 at 2:20 pm to
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Jefferson's stats are better than lee this year.


And he's padded his stats against the likes of WKU and Ole Miss.
Posted by ChenierauTigre
Dreamland
Member since Dec 2007
34707 posts
Posted on 11/20/11 at 2:20 pm to
Could it have ANYTHING at all to do with ball control? If we keep it out of the opponent's hands, it's kinda hard for them to score against us, no? It also gives our awesome defense a rest so they're not trying to defend while exhausted. This contributes greatly to their awesomeness.

Posted by BeeFense5
Kenner
Member since Jul 2010
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Posted on 11/20/11 at 2:22 pm to
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And he's padded his stats against the likes of WKU and Ole Miss.



Sounds like excuses.

Posted by Deathrider
Member since Aug 2010
3675 posts
Posted on 11/20/11 at 2:23 pm to
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Sounds like excuses.


I'll take lesser stats that produced wins over ranked teams at the beginning of the season. You know, the sort of run that put LSU in the driver's seat in the first place.
Posted by OBUDan
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
40723 posts
Posted on 11/20/11 at 2:23 pm to
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And he's padded his stats against the likes of WKU and Ole Miss.



Certainly level of competition should be considered, but if it's merely poor competition, wouldn't Lee have posted tremendous numbers against Kentucky?
Posted by Hot Carl
Prayers up for 3
Member since Dec 2005
61942 posts
Posted on 11/20/11 at 2:23 pm to
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from a statistical perspective, though, the decision to play Jefferson over Lee (last year and this year) makes little sense to me.


I disagree, but your view is completely valid. We can both reasonably come to different conclusions on who is the better QB. What is not reasonable and not valid, though, is to assume some sort of bizarre, inexplicable favortism Les has for JJ over Lee rather than the simple conclusion that he just thinks he's better.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
293746 posts
Posted on 11/20/11 at 2:24 pm to
LSU plays Arkansas, most likely UGA and someone decent in the NCG or a bowl game in the weeks to come. The QB position my become important, until now it really hasn't been.

Miles will do the right thing hopefully. All that matters is winning. Only three games to go. If JJ struggles, hopefully he will get pulled for someone who can produce. Miles has shown the willingness to do it this year when he had a difficult time with it last year.
This post was edited on 11/20/11 at 2:26 pm
Posted by Choctaw
Pumpin' Sunshine
Member since Jul 2007
77774 posts
Posted on 11/20/11 at 2:24 pm to
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Deathrider


so i guess you'll be on here again this weekend bitching and moaning when JJ starts. SECCG? what about the NCG?
This post was edited on 11/20/11 at 2:26 pm
Posted by RBWilliams8
Member since Oct 2009
53839 posts
Posted on 11/20/11 at 2:25 pm to
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I don't give a rat's arse if Mike the Tiger is the QB


I would empty my bank account to make this happen.

WHY THE frick IS MILES NOT STARTING MIKE?!?!
Posted by ChenierauTigre
Dreamland
Member since Dec 2007
34707 posts
Posted on 11/20/11 at 2:25 pm to
As well as the QB coach and OC. I'm sure they get a little input.
Posted by BeeFense5
Kenner
Member since Jul 2010
42142 posts
Posted on 11/20/11 at 2:26 pm to
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I'll take lesser stats that produced wins over ranked teams at the beginning of the season. You know, the sort of run that put LSU in the driver's seat in the first place.



You seem to interpret what I say as a slight to Lee. Im happy as hell for what Lee did for the team. I just think the doomsday and chicken little stuff people keep crying about with JJ is unwarranted. Especially considering his play this year.
Posted by Deathrider
Member since Aug 2010
3675 posts
Posted on 11/20/11 at 2:26 pm to
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so i guess you'll be on here again this weekend bitching and moaning when JJ starts.


I'll be at the game, so I'll be on my best behavior.
Posted by BeeFense5
Kenner
Member since Jul 2010
42142 posts
Posted on 11/20/11 at 2:26 pm to
quote:

LSU plays Arkansas, most likely UGA and someone decent in the NCG or a bowl game in the weeks to come. The QB position my become important, until now it really hasn't been.

Miles will do the right thing hopefully. All that matters is winning. Only three games to go. If JJ struggles, hopefully he will get pulled for someone who can produce. Miles has shown the willingness to do it this year when he had a difficult time with it last year.



Posted by RBWilliams8
Member since Oct 2009
53839 posts
Posted on 11/20/11 at 2:28 pm to
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Deathrider


Posted by ChenierauTigre
Dreamland
Member since Dec 2007
34707 posts
Posted on 11/20/11 at 2:28 pm to
Well, thank you, Jesus! Can you please leave your iphone at home?

Posted by Deathrider
Member since Aug 2010
3675 posts
Posted on 11/20/11 at 2:29 pm to
quote:

Can you please leave your iphone at home?


Have you tried getting a signal there during the game? When I'm there, the last thing I think about is the Rant.
Posted by Lonnie4LSU
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2008
9525 posts
Posted on 11/20/11 at 2:32 pm to
quote:

As far as a coach he is only as good as his staff.


Yeah, that must be why the staff comes and goes, but the winning just keeps coming and coming and coming to the tune of 73-17 with the most wins in BCS football since 2005, huh.

Posted by tigerfoot
Alexandria
Member since Sep 2006
60584 posts
Posted on 11/20/11 at 2:35 pm to
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think I'm just going to post porn and peace out.


That actually crossed my mind last week. I have a sickness, I can't quit on my own. And this place is dysfunctional on it's best day
Posted by south bama tiger
Member since May 2008
6646 posts
Posted on 11/20/11 at 2:41 pm to
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Something that's bounced around in my head, but it's interesting that JJ beat Lee out three years in a row in QB competitions. But again, he's somehow worse.


In 2010, do you really think JJ beat out Lee in practice? If he was throwing it into the ground vs Vanderbilt and Tennessee, he sure wasn't completing passes on the LSU D at practice.


(This has nothing to do with 2011 Lee/Jefferson, but it's interesting that after watching the games last year that anyone can still think Jefferson truly won the QB competition.)
Posted by novabill
Crossville, TN
Member since Sep 2005
10723 posts
Posted on 11/20/11 at 2:45 pm to
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That's where you are wrong. I ultimately care whether or not LSU wins. I just believe a JL-led offense has enough of a resume this season to justify him starting over JJ.



I actually liked the thought of you having an affinity for JL better. Here you are saying that you know more than the coach, or that the coach knows the same thing you do, and is willing to risk a championship to play a favored player over a better one.
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