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re: Did JJ look faster?

Posted on 10/6/11 at 2:36 pm to
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
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Posted on 10/6/11 at 2:36 pm to

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Yes it would. But it is also detrimental to the point you want to believe.
Posted by Mr. Wayne
Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 10/6/11 at 2:38 pm to
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Actually it wouldn't be.


Yes... it would. How is comparing where Lee is today to where JJ was last year at this time giving us an accurate assessment of where Lee is compared to JJ today? The much more accurate comparison would be to compare the two using the most recent samples.
Posted by OBUDan
Chicago
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Posted on 10/6/11 at 2:38 pm to
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Doc used to be JJ's biggest cheerleader.


Congrats, that's only the 45th time you've said that in this thread.

We know, Roger.
Posted by Choctaw
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Member since Jul 2007
77774 posts
Posted on 10/6/11 at 2:39 pm to
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TheDoc


question....why did you refer to the LSU football program as "the fighting kiges"?

Are you not an LSU fan?
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298686 posts
Posted on 10/6/11 at 2:40 pm to
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Congrats, that's only the 45th time you've said that in this thread.

We know, Roger.



Ignore it if you have heard it so you don't come off so petty...
Posted by CptBengal
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Posted on 10/6/11 at 2:40 pm to
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The much more accurate comparison would be to compare the two using the most recent samples.





your understanding of sampling methodology for statistical comparison is non-existent.
Posted by OBUDan
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
40723 posts
Posted on 10/6/11 at 2:40 pm to
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No it wouldn't. That's why business compare Q1 with Q1 and NOT Q1 with Q3 when analyzing trends from different years.



Those are two things that aren't even remotely comparable.
Posted by Mayhawman
Somewhere in the middle of SEC West
Member since Dec 2009
10477 posts
Posted on 10/6/11 at 2:41 pm to
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Especially when you use it to defend/support a comment that all of the "black radio callers" are on welfare.

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Wtf?
Fck if I know. As said, glad I missed that one.
I just commented some ethnic groups might take exception to statement.
I'm done with this thread now that it's turned racist.

I think we could all practice a little tolerance on Rant.
Players are all one creed, LSU Fighting Tigers.
Posted by Mr. Wayne
Member since Feb 2008
10086 posts
Posted on 10/6/11 at 2:41 pm to
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That's why business compare Q1 with Q1 and NOT Q1 with Q3 when analyzing trends from different years.


We are comparing Lee to JJ today. A business compares itself in that fashion. If they were comparing to separate companies, would they use last year from one and this year for another? Or would they use the two most recent samples?
Posted by CptBengal
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Posted on 10/6/11 at 2:42 pm to
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Those are two things that aren't even remotely comparable.



really?

So a football team and the end of a season is more similar to a football team at the beginning of the season.

Than two beginnings of the season from sequential years?

Really wanna make that argument?
Posted by TheDoc
doc is no more
Member since Dec 2005
99297 posts
Posted on 10/6/11 at 2:42 pm to
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Yes... it would


Are you being deliberately obtuse? It seems so

You can't speed up time.

You have to compare the same time period because experience and reps play a huge part for a qb.

How do you not understand this?

It's been discussed 1000 times.

JJ got better throughout the season. It would be assumed that lee would get better too right?
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298686 posts
Posted on 10/6/11 at 2:42 pm to
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We are comparing Lee to JJ today.


We haven't seen enough of JJ "today" to compare.
Posted by Brettesaurus Rex
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2009
38261 posts
Posted on 10/6/11 at 2:43 pm to
Why the hell did a thread with this title get to 20 pages?
Posted by TheDoc
doc is no more
Member since Dec 2005
99297 posts
Posted on 10/6/11 at 2:43 pm to
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now that it's turned racist


What the frick are you talking about?

Who's racist? Who even posted something racist?

Posted by Mr. Wayne
Member since Feb 2008
10086 posts
Posted on 10/6/11 at 2:43 pm to
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your understanding of sampling methodology for statistical comparison is non-existent.



Explain it to me then. If I am ignorant, I would want to be enlightened.
Posted by OBUDan
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
40723 posts
Posted on 10/6/11 at 2:43 pm to
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So a football team and the end of a season is more similar to a football team at the beginning of the season.




I never said that.


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Than two beginnings of the season from sequential years?



Aren't remotely comparable in the slightest.

These are two entirely different teams playing entirely different schedules with different coaches.

It's stupid and doesn't say anything.
Posted by CptBengal
BR Baby
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 10/6/11 at 2:43 pm to
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If they were comparing to separate companies, would they use last year from one and this year for another?


they would still compare stats from the same quarter.

in fact, even moreso, because comparing different sectors of time allows for another variable and error structure that cannot be accounted for.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298686 posts
Posted on 10/6/11 at 2:43 pm to
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JJ got better throughout the season. It would be assumed that lee would get better too right?




No...compare a QB with a week to prepare as the starter to a QB who had a whole season to improve. Dude. C'mon!
Posted by Mr. Wayne
Member since Feb 2008
10086 posts
Posted on 10/6/11 at 2:44 pm to
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We haven't seen enough of JJ "today" to compare.


This is the point a few are trying to make. If we don't have enough of JJ now, wouldn't the more accurate portrayal of him be the most recent?
Posted by CptBengal
BR Baby
Member since Dec 2007
71661 posts
Posted on 10/6/11 at 2:45 pm to
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So a football team and the end of a season is more similar to a football team at the beginning of the season.




I never said that.


Thats exactly what you imply when you say comparison of the end of 2010 against the beginning of 2011 is most fair.

quote:

These are two entirely different teams playing entirely different schedules with different coaches.

It's stupid and doesn't say anything.



then no comparison can be made, ever.
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