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re: Dave Aranda
Posted on 8/28/18 at 10:10 am to ibleedprplngld
Posted on 8/28/18 at 10:10 am to ibleedprplngld
quote:I disagree with the personality type comment.
From an X's and O's stand point, Aranda may be one the smartest guys in all of football. I have no doubt that he could be a top 5 OC if he wanted.
My only concern is that he doesn't have the personality type to be a HC or that he even wants to be a HC.
While he isn't your TRADITIONAL coach type, traditional coaching type personalities are not what defines success.
In these uber-large super-high expectation programs (which LSU is) I'd put the following qualities at the top of my list (in no particular order)
- excellent communicator, players and coaches
- understand how to create and manage processes with an eye towards efficiency (time mgmt)
- ability to pull data, analysis of said data, without analysis paralysis
- ability to be objective (e.g. don't care how much you like a player, be able to critique him)
- manage your coaches
- understand technology to give your coaches tools
- let your position coaches coach. you hired them for a reason.
This is based on in these types of programs your position coaches and coordinators are your primary conduit to the players. They have to be on the same page, be motivated, be held accountable, and yes, the coaches need to be coached. A HC can't be everywhere all the time and all things to all players. Hence without managing those coaches, you will be limited drastically.
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Posted on 8/28/18 at 10:14 am to idlewatcher
Seems like some of y'all are forgetting that we had to pay Aranda $2.5 million to keep him from going to A&M.
As for him being offered head coach in waiting...no way. This title has an impact on recruiting. An HCIW has the same recruiting restrictions as an HC.
As for it looking bad to promote from within again...first, he wasn't a candidate the first time, so it's not like we passed on him and are now going back. Second, I could give AF about perception. Just hire the best coach for the job, regardless of what it looks like.
As for him being offered head coach in waiting...no way. This title has an impact on recruiting. An HCIW has the same recruiting restrictions as an HC.
As for it looking bad to promote from within again...first, he wasn't a candidate the first time, so it's not like we passed on him and are now going back. Second, I could give AF about perception. Just hire the best coach for the job, regardless of what it looks like.
Posted on 8/28/18 at 10:14 am to thunderbird1100
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I highly, highly doubt they promote another assistant.
I don’t understand why this narrative still has any traction. Recent results CLEARLY demonstrate that hiring a first-time HC is not a liability: Dabo, Jimbo at FSU, Kirby, etc.
If anything, Aranda is the anti-O. Super focused, doesnt wear his heart on his sleeve and very controlled in his emotions, chooses his words carefully, incredibly knowledgeable about the X’s and O’s, develops players and the coaches under him, and on and on. Aside from having not been a HC before, I cannot think of a single question mark that suggests he would be anything but wildly successful. Hell, he’s even recruited well, and that isn’t even his forté.
It is entirely possible that he doesn’t want to be an HC, but I’m beginning to think that the NFL isn’t the draw on him that it’s perceived to be—I have zero doubt teams have put feelers out to him, but there’s never been any indication that he has thought of leaving for the league. He may actually prefer coaching 18-24 year-olds. (I hope so)
Whenever O leaves, regardless of why he leaves, Aranda is the only name on my wish list.
Posted on 8/28/18 at 10:26 am to ibleedprplngld
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My only concern is that he doesn't have the personality type to be a HC or that he even wants to be a HC.
I agree. Super cerebral guys often don’t really want (or flat out despise) all the BS that a lead position entails.
Posted on 8/28/18 at 10:33 am to DontCare
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develops players and the coaches under him
Do you have examples of this? Because it's my biggest concern with him. How good is he as a leader of players and coaches. At LSU, the coaches that have been under him are: Bradley Dale Peveto, Pete Jenkins, Ed Orgeron, Corey Raymond, Dennis Johnson & Bill Busch. Other than Meatball, those are all already very experienced coaches. I mean, they've all worked well together, but I don't see how you can credit Aranda with any of their development.
Posted on 8/28/18 at 11:54 am to DontCare
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If anything, Aranda is the anti-O. Super focused, doesnt wear his heart on his sleeve and very controlled in his emotions, chooses his words carefully, incredibly knowledgeable about the X’s and O’s, develops players and the coaches under him, and on and on. Aside from having not been a HC before, I cannot think of a single question mark that suggests he would be anything but wildly successful. Hell, he’s even recruited well, and that isn’t even his forté.
100% agree...
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but I’m beginning to think that the NFL isn’t the draw on him that it’s perceived to be—I have zero doubt teams have put feelers out to him, but there’s never been any indication that he has thought of leaving for the league. He may actually prefer coaching 18-24 year-olds.
Im beginning to think the same thing.. he could have very easily gone last year... I dont think he wants to coach in the NFL... Hell, the DC's make more in College! I think jmo... I think he is now very content with where he is... he likes the autonomy... and I believe he is waiting for the head job when orgeron is done... whenever that may be... I have to take him for his word, I think his family may keep him here...
Posted on 8/28/18 at 12:22 pm to whitefoot
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Do you have examples of “develops coaches under him?”
I was playing it loose by saying that—my proof is entirely circumstantial. None of the units appear to have dropped off under Aranda, players haven’t regressed, we continue to recruit defensive players at a high level, our coaching staff has added talent under him, I haven’t heard of any defensive coaches who aren’t pulling their weight (a la Brick or Peveto, who was immediately shown the door upon Aranda’s arrival), etc. Though there hasn’t been anyone under him to get a major step-up offer, but this is only his third season at LSU, which makes that a push, at worst.
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