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Posted on 8/17/22 at 12:52 pm to sabes que
Jackson is without question a running QB, the other two aren’t. The numbers show that clearly just like with Daniels. Don’t be so insecure, you don’t need to bend reality to confirm your pro Daniels stance. Just stick to the facts and make your case.
Posted on 8/17/22 at 12:57 pm to Madking
Where is the line of demarcation when it comes to who is a running QB and who isn’t? They are all just football players. Was Kobe Bryant a shooter?
Posted on 8/17/22 at 1:02 pm to sabes que
Just out of curiosity, will you be upset if Daniels is QB2?
Posted on 8/17/22 at 1:03 pm to sabes que
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Daniels is not a “running QB”
He is a QB that can run.
signed every running QB ever. It's not an insult to say he's a running QB or indicative he sucks at throwing, so I don't know why it bothers so many people on here to call him a running QB. He averaged over 10 carries a game last year. That's not a small number for a QB. He ran at ASU and probably will run here plenty of read option running plays. He's not just a QB who can scramble when the pocket breaks down. He's a pretty prototypical dual-threat QB, and there's nothing wrong with that either.
Posted on 8/17/22 at 1:04 pm to doliss
Not at all, that would mean a freshman beat out a 29 game starter. He would obviously be damn good and would lead us to winning games
Posted on 8/17/22 at 1:05 pm to sabes que
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Are Mahomes, Burrow, Allen, Jackson, not pro QBs?
a "pro QB" and a "pro-style" QB are two different things. Lamar Jackson is not a "pro-style" QB.
Posted on 8/17/22 at 1:06 pm to sabes que
Again stop trying to redefine reality. Tom Brady doesn’t run a 4.4 and never will. Kobe Bryant played basketball. Lamar Jackson has led all QBs in rushing attempts and yards since he entered the NFL. He also has one of the lowest passing outputs of any full time starter, never throwing for over 3,100 yards in his career. Burrow and Mahomes had both gone over 4,600 yards by year 2. Mahomes career highest rushing output is about half of Jackson’s career low and Burrow runs about 90% less than Jackson in an average season. If you can’t tell the difference between these players you don’t know anything about football.
Posted on 8/17/22 at 1:08 pm to lsufball19
Fair enough, but it depends on what your definition of running Qb is. Dual threat is more appropriate. He passes way more than throws, and played in a garbage Les Miles esque system
Posted on 8/17/22 at 1:10 pm to 2girls1shrimpboat
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accuracy problems should he be the starter?
Where does the “accuracy problems” narrative come from? He led the pac12 in completion % and was 4th in yards per attempt.
Posted on 8/17/22 at 1:11 pm to Madking
Being able to run doesn’t mean you can’t throw.
Posted on 8/17/22 at 1:13 pm to sabes que
If your legs are your best weapon and are used for a considerable portion of the offense you’re a running QB. If your running ability dictates how you’re defended, you’re a running QB. You can keep trying to change the definition but I doubt the rest of the world is gonna come to heel for you.
Posted on 8/17/22 at 1:15 pm to Sterling Archer
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Where does the “accuracy problems” narrative come from? He led the pac12 in completion % and was 4th in yards per attempt.
Daniels also had a better completion percentage compared to Nuss by 15% and Daniels had nearly 3 more YPA. Yet, according to the rant, it is Daniels that is inaccurate. It is very interesting.
Posted on 8/17/22 at 1:16 pm to sabes que
Was Micheal Vick a running QB by your definition?
Posted on 8/17/22 at 1:19 pm to Madking
quote:. Ok so, Burrow, Allen, Jackson, Bryce Young, Will Levis, etc etc are all running QBs then. And Lebron James is a shooter, because people absolutely take that into account as far as how he is defended. Does a defense not have to consider any of those guys running abilities?
If your running ability dictates how you’re defended, you’re a running QB
Posted on 8/17/22 at 1:19 pm to Tigerbait2005
Because some people know the difference between check down Charlie and being accurate on the throws you’ll have to make to move the chains in the SEC. Yes he could’ve improved since spring and can now make those throws but so far on video he hasn’t shown he can. That’s where it comes from.
Posted on 8/17/22 at 1:20 pm to sabes que
I answered your question and posted the data to back my answer up. You’re refusing to answer mine and keep talking about basketball for some strange reason.
Posted on 8/17/22 at 1:22 pm to lsufb1912
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Neither example is comparable to "running" QBs like Lamar Jackson
wouldn't a more apt comparison be to compare him to a pocket QB like Mac Jones, a mobile QB like Burrow, and a running QB like Jackson (and Daniels)
Mac Jones 2020 (13 games)
35 rushes, 14 yards (sacked 19 times for -75 yards)
running plays w/o sacks: 16 rushes for 89 yards
avg per game w/o sacks: 1.2 carries for 6.8 yards
Burrow 2019 (15 games)
115 rushes 368 yards(sacked 35 times for -211 yards)
running plays w/o sacks: 80 rushes for 579 yards
avg per game w/o sacks: 5.3 carries for 38.6 yards
Jackson 2017 (13 games)
232 rushes 1601 yards (sacked 30 times for -198 yards)
running plays w/o sacks: 202 carries 1799 yards
avg per game w/o sacks: 15.5 carries for 128.4 yards
Daniels 2021 (13 games)
138 carries for 710 yards (sacked 26 times for -187 yards)
running plays w/o sacks: 112 carries 897 yards
avg per game w/o sacks: 8.6 carries for 69 yards
So looking at these numbers, he ran twice as much as Burrow in 2019 for twice as much yardage on running plays, not including sacks. He ran a lot less than Lamar Jackson, who is one of the best running QBs in college football history.
Posted on 8/17/22 at 1:23 pm to Madking
quote:. Do defenses not prepare for a guy like Burrow to run?
If your running ability dictates how you’re defended, you’re a running QB
Posted on 8/17/22 at 1:24 pm to Madking
Also hard L on the whole Brennan thing for you.
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