re: D Jones came with Aranda rec..

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I know. It's disturbing. He's out of his league. The other adds including the dl coach are very positive.

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I wouldn't use the word "disturbing". "risky", yes; I think that word applies best.

I get the model. Surrounding a specific DC and his philosophy with experience and quality.

Raymond, Baker, & Carter are all experienced. There's some argument over quality, but the experience is there. 1 of those people think is going to leave because he's being passed over for DC, the other has been a DC, and the third spent time in the NFL and was an stud NFL player.

Regarding the model and the specific DC philosophy... I see this as another of Orgeron's mistakes that, credit due where credit is due, he identified that mistake and has taken the steps to fix it. That mistake is, like many of us here (include me), that Aranda's idea of how to combat modern mesh/spread/RPO offenses was indeed correct. Between the 20's you're not going to "stop" them. Between the 20's you play for mistakes and turnover opportunities. If you try to "stop" them instead of "throttle" them you'll get burned on long plays. Lo and behold what did we see in 2020.

So he went out and found a young(er) coach, rooted in DBs, who's college experience was against the early spread offenses (like Aranda) and NFL experience. The interview likely centered around philosophy vs. modern offenses, and they liked what they heard. A big chunk was likely focused on how as a lesser experienced guy than his position coaches he was going to be required, and I emphasize required, to lean on those and titles did not mean as much as they normally did.

In other words, the DCs job is to integrate the three experienced coaching into a defensive plan that is designed to impact modern offenses. Likely not your traditional DC role where the position coaches "work for" the DC.

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It's so O can blame Dave if we suck.

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Or Dave purposely planted an insurgent who will submarine O while collecting a big check. Maybe Aranda is even paying him directly to frick over O.

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I wouldn't use the word "disturbing". "risky", yes; I think that word applies best.

I get the model. Surrounding a specific DC and his philosophy with experience and quality.

Raymond, Baker, & Carter are all experienced. There's some argument over quality, but the experience is there. 1 of those people think is going to leave because he's being passed over for DC, the other has been a DC, and the third spent time in the NFL and was an stud NFL player.

Regarding the model and the specific DC philosophy... I see this as another of Orgeron's mistakes that, credit due where credit is due, he identified that mistake and has taken the steps to fix it. That mistake is, like many of us here (include me), that Aranda's idea of how to combat modern mesh/spread/RPO offenses was indeed correct. Between the 20's you're not going to "stop" them. Between the 20's you play for mistakes and turnover opportunities. If you try to "stop" them instead of "throttle" them you'll get burned on long plays. Lo and behold what did we see in 2020.

So he went out and found a young(er) coach, rooted in DBs, who's college experience was against the early spread offenses (like Aranda) and NFL experience. The interview likely centered around philosophy vs. modern offenses, and they liked what they heard. A big chunk was likely focused on how as a lesser experienced guy than his position coaches he was going to be required, and I emphasize required, to lean on those and titles did not mean as much as they normally did.

In other words, the DCs job is to integrate the three experienced coaching into a defensive plan that is designed to impact modern offenses. Likely not your traditional DC role where the position coaches "work for" the DC.

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Well thought out insightful and sane comments like this on here is like a glass of cold water to a man dying of thirst in the desert. This place is aggravating sometimes, but you have to always remember who you’re working with.

"It's going to be orgerons death knell. Terrible hire." . Well, alot of people said the same thing about Brady and how did that turn out? We will find out soon enough, but I can't say it was a terrible hire yet.