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re: Curiosity about "The Want"

Posted on 7/25/10 at 10:17 pm to
Posted by Antonio Moss
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Posted on 7/25/10 at 10:17 pm to
Miles' use of "want" as a noun describing substantive desire is grammatically incorrect.
Posted by Choctaw
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Posted on 7/25/10 at 10:18 pm to
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Did you grow up in Alexandria? If so, where did you go to school?



I hope neither of you asshats went to Prompt Succor or Menard.
Posted by markthetiger
alexandria
Member since Aug 2005
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Posted on 7/25/10 at 10:20 pm to
I was a mustang but coached football at Bolton and Buckeye and am now at ASH
Posted by Choctaw
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Member since Jul 2007
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Posted on 7/25/10 at 10:21 pm to
quote:

Miles' use of "want" as a noun describing substantive desire is grammatically incorrect.



Jesus Christ...didn't i already explain this shite to you in another thread. Still sticking with your failed logic i see.
Posted by markthetiger
alexandria
Member since Aug 2005
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Posted on 7/25/10 at 10:22 pm to
have a son at Prompt Succor and a daughter that went to Menard and is now at ASH. What of it?
Posted by Hitchcock
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 7/25/10 at 10:22 pm to
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Miles' use of "want" as a noun describing substantive desire is grammatically incorrect.


Wrong. It is both a noun a verb.
Posted by Antonio Moss
The South
Member since Mar 2006
49047 posts
Posted on 7/25/10 at 10:23 pm to
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Jesus Christ...didn't i already explain this shite to you in another thread. Still sticking with your failed logic i see.


Were you the one who posted a bunch of definitions of the verb "want" and try to pass it off as a noun?
Posted by Choctaw
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Posted on 7/25/10 at 10:27 pm to
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Were you the one who posted a bunch of definitions of the verb "want" and try to pass it off as a noun?



No...i'm the one that posted the definition of the word "want" when used as a noun....along with a couple of posters.

When you look up a word there are definitions marked v. (which means verb) and n. (which means noun). Im not sure if know this.
This post was edited on 7/25/10 at 10:28 pm
Posted by markthetiger
alexandria
Member since Aug 2005
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Posted on 7/25/10 at 10:29 pm to
Choctaw u know ur turning against Miles.....i hope he turns it around and proves me wrong, but i just don't know. i came up in the 80's and loved charly mac and arnsbarger. thought his DC would do good....bust. thought curly wd do good...bust. thought dinardo wd do good....bust
Saban...did good. Miles...did good, looking shakey last two years, this year will tell the tale.
Posted by Antonio Moss
The South
Member since Mar 2006
49047 posts
Posted on 7/25/10 at 10:32 pm to
Well, Mr. Webster disagrees with you:

quote:

Entry Word: want
Function: noun
Meaning: 1 the fact or state of being absent <for want of a nail, the horse's shoe was lost during the race> — see lack 1
2 a falling short of an essential or desirable amount or number <there's a notable want of teachers in that rural school district> — see deficiency
3 a state of being without something necessary, desirable, or useful <those children are in want of some good discipline> — see need 1
4 the state of lacking sufficient money or material possessions <grew up in extreme want> — see poverty 1
Posted by TheDoc
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Posted on 7/25/10 at 10:34 pm to
Ahahaha
Posted by Hitchcock
Member since Oct 2008
2889 posts
Posted on 7/25/10 at 10:38 pm to
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Amazing. I ask a simple civil question and folks gratuitously try to sling insults, ill-founded ones at that.

BTW Hitchdick, while "want" may be a standard word, "the want" isn't a common phrase.

It seems no-one know the etymology of the phrase or if it has any regional or cultural association. However if someone does, I'd appreciate your sharing the knowledge.

Thanks.


I wasn't insulting you, some do not take literature courses, others just skim through it. it is very basic word in literature.

ex: "the want of the love of a woman"

personally, I like the fact that our coach uses more unique language than others. "I'm a man, I'm 40" or comparing pitiful losses to real tragedies like 9/11 & pearl harbor.
Posted by Antonio Moss
The South
Member since Mar 2006
49047 posts
Posted on 7/25/10 at 10:40 pm to
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"the want of the love of a woman"


Um, do you know what you're saying here? Because it's not same way Miles uses "want."
Posted by TIGRLEE
Northeast Louisiana
Member since Nov 2009
31493 posts
Posted on 7/25/10 at 10:44 pm to
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Antonio Moss


holy shite.. not only are you a football genius but you're also an english major.

talk about a poster adding value to this site.
Posted by Antonio Moss
The South
Member since Mar 2006
49047 posts
Posted on 7/25/10 at 10:49 pm to
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but you're also an english major.


Negative ghostrider.

I was an English minor.
Posted by Hitchcock
Member since Oct 2008
2889 posts
Posted on 7/25/10 at 10:49 pm to
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Well, Mr. Webster disagrees with you:


merriam-webster disagrees with mr. webster.

quote:


Main Entry: 1want
Function: verb
Etymology: Middle English, from Old Norse vanta; akin to Old English wan deficient
Date: 13th century

intransitive verb 1 : to be needy or destitute
2 : to have or feel need <never wants for friends>
3 : to be necessary or needed
4 : to desire to come, go, or be <the cat wants in> <wants out of the deal>transitive verb






Posted by Hitchcock
Member since Oct 2008
2889 posts
Posted on 7/25/10 at 10:51 pm to
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I was an English minor.


that's doubtful. LSU freshman learn this in semester 1 or 2.
Posted by Antonio Moss
The South
Member since Mar 2006
49047 posts
Posted on 7/25/10 at 10:56 pm to
Look, I'm really not trying to be a dick here, but nouns =/= verbs. The way that Miles (and you in your example) use "want" is in noun form. Of course the verb "want" means "to desire." But the noun version of "want" means "an absence or lack of."

So when you say "for want of a woman" you aren't saying "for desire, or to desire a woman," you're saying "for lack of a woman."

Like the old poem "For want of a nail," where the lack of a nail caused the horseshoe to fall off the horse which inevitably cause the nation to lose the war, "want" as a noun literally means a lack of something.
This post was edited on 7/25/10 at 11:00 pm
Posted by TheDoc
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Member since Dec 2005
99297 posts
Posted on 7/25/10 at 11:01 pm to
I think it's funny how people like to make fun of the educated on the rant.

Par for the course I guess.
Posted by Choctaw
Pumpin' Sunshine
Member since Jul 2007
77774 posts
Posted on 7/25/10 at 11:02 pm to
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2 a falling short of an essential or desirable amount or number <there's a notable want of teachers in that rural school district> — see deficiency


as in....there is a notable want for a running game this season.
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