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re: Copy of Motion for Dismissal of Charges
Posted on 9/17/11 at 12:47 pm to Navytiger74
Posted on 9/17/11 at 12:47 pm to Navytiger74
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It's not charity to allow the former starter to start if he's only been out for a few weeks.
No...but i don't think he should start if he's reinstated. He should play but not start. He's been away from practice for awhile
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Posted on 9/17/11 at 12:48 pm to RealityTiger
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No, it's not charity. It's not realistic. I am not with the crowd that has burning torches and pitch forks ready to run JJ out of town, but I also don't think Miles would do that to Lee. That's chickenshit. And believe it or not, missing "a few weeks" along with a good chunk of fall practice means a bunch. It's not like JJ is Tom Brady and can just jump right in and start throwing 300 yard games.
Agree entirely.
But I do think that if JJ is reinstated sooner rather than later, he gets a shot to play his way back into the starting role. Not given to him...but to earn his spot back. the one he HAD earned in the eyes of the coaching staff over the past 2 years under center.
Allowing that to happen is not hanging Lee out to dry, but not allowing it would be doing so to JJ for something that may very well have been entirely out of his control and something which did not take place between the lines.
Posted on 9/17/11 at 12:48 pm to junkfunky
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All of these assumptions are correct. As far as a judge or jury, the judge presides over the case, but he has the right to have a jury trial if he chooses to.
Thank you
Posted on 9/17/11 at 12:48 pm to RealityTiger
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No, it's not charity. It's not realistic. I am not with the crowd that has burning torches and pitch forks ready to run JJ out of town, but I also don't think Miles would do that to Lee. That's chickenshit. And believe it or not, missing "a few weeks" along with a good chunk of fall practice means a bunch. It's not like JJ is Tom Brady and can just jump right in and start throwing 300 yard games.
I don't think he should start either, but I'm not about to act as though it's the most preposterous proposition since time travel.
And he missed exactly NONE of fall practice.
Posted on 9/17/11 at 12:49 pm to Hot Carl
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Way to move the goalposts.
I didn't move anything.
You threw out a strawman, and I gave you the best answer I could. C'est la vie.
Posted on 9/17/11 at 12:49 pm to Navytiger74
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What bandwagon is that? The "I don't ever want to see JJ suit up again" bandwagon? You make sense at times. Other times, I wonder if you even read the fricking board. There's a 15 page thread a few pages back. Check that one out. This board isn't overflowing with love for Jefferson.
Of course you'd know that if you took your head out of your arse on this.
And the comedy continues. You get pissed off WAY too easily there Jethro. The accusations in this threas are pure gold and one of the reasons this board is my comedic relief.
College teaches people how to think, not what to think and some of you people evedently gon't get it. It seems this board is full of parrots one way or another. You hear something and run with it, follow the latest sentiment like some hopeful child. I personally think JJ should be reinstated now, that he has done his time but it has nothing to do with the evidence against him which none of us know a thing about, but seem to follow every fantasy that blows on the wind.
Posted on 9/17/11 at 12:50 pm to Choctaw
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No...but i don't think he should start if he's reinstated. He should play but not start. He's been away from practice for awhile
I agree that he shouldn't start. But it wouldn't be the craziest idea in football history if he did. These people are simply gearing up to throw a conniption fit if/whenever he does take the field...under any circumstances.
Posted on 9/17/11 at 12:50 pm to TigerTailsSoup
I edited the post to clarify that it is up to the defendant to chose a jury trial. The way I originally wrote it sounded like it was at the judge's discretion, which it is not.
You're welcome.
You're welcome.
Posted on 9/17/11 at 12:51 pm to Tigerfan7218
Joe Alleva should not be allowed to manage a major college program again.
He threw the Duke Lacrosse players under the bus, culminating is a multi-million dollar settlement in favor of the players.
Now, he quickly denounces the LSU football players, suspends JJ indefinitely, and now it looks like there wasn't a whole lot to the story. Unglesby will go for every dime possible.
I couldn't believe LSU hired that man in the first place. Now we are in hot water like Duke University was.
He threw the Duke Lacrosse players under the bus, culminating is a multi-million dollar settlement in favor of the players.
Now, he quickly denounces the LSU football players, suspends JJ indefinitely, and now it looks like there wasn't a whole lot to the story. Unglesby will go for every dime possible.
I couldn't believe LSU hired that man in the first place. Now we are in hot water like Duke University was.
Posted on 9/17/11 at 12:51 pm to 5Alive
A motion for dismissal of charges? Must be innocent.
Posted on 9/17/11 at 12:52 pm to Choctaw
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No...but i don't think he should start if he's reinstated. He should play but not start. He's been away from practice for awhile
Who cares who plays QB?
Reinstatement has to do with what is fair, not "who's boy" gets to play. He has served his time and should be reinstated, but should have to work his way up the depth chart. He will come back as number three, most likely.
Posted on 9/17/11 at 12:53 pm to Godfather1
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I could agree with Les giving him the option of taking a redshirt and coming back next year with a fair opportunity to win his starting job back in the spring.
But 4 weeks into this season...that ship has sailed. I just have the feeling that mere reinstatement to the team isn't going to be enough for JJ. He'll want his starting position handed back to him. And it could well cause dissension on the team when that doesn't happen, which isn't fair to the other kids.
this is bullshite....if you didn't do anything wrong then you should be reinstated. period. Not start...maybe not even play...but at the very least be reinstated.
i asked this of another poster and never got a straight answer:
Say you're accused of something and given a leave of absence from your job...later the charges are dropped or you're found innocent of any wrong doing...would you expect to be allowed back to work? Would you be pissed if your boss said "You know what? I know it was never proven that you did anything wrong but we're going to go ahead and fire you anyway."
Posted on 9/17/11 at 12:53 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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College teaches people how to think, not what to think and some of you people evedently gon't get it. It seems this board is full of parrots one way or another. You hear something and run with it, follow the latest sentiment like some hopeful child. I personally think JJ should be reinstated now, that he has done his time but it has nothing to do with the evidence against him which none of us know a thing about, but seem to follow every fantasy that blows on the wind.
Well you sure shot your fat fricking fingers off on that one. I didn't even read the affidavit. I don't know that he's innocent. I sincerely doubt that he's fully innocent. I was addressing the attitude of many fans--which seems to have a great deal of traction around here--that he shouldn't return no matter what. I honestly think, for his sake, it'd probably be best to move on. But I fully support his return if these charges are reduced or dropped. What the frick else should a fan do?
Posted on 9/17/11 at 12:53 pm to Navytiger74
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And he missed exactly NONE of fall practice
Ok, I will give you that and I was wrong. I forgot that there was a time when it was questionable until he actually got arrested and was still practicing.
But, he has been off the team and not practicing for 4 solid weeks, and will most likely be 5 weeks at the very least.
Posted on 9/17/11 at 12:53 pm to Choctaw
Bordering on absurdity.
It doesn't matter if you are a supporter of JLee or JJ (not to forget Johns).
Be assured that CLM knows the facts. After discussing with the players the night in question, he clearly gave the best reply to JJ in "defend yourself to the fullest".
tards will post the BRPD is at fault which is laughable and sophmorish.
While we all wish the best for the JJ's, they put themselves where they are and they are SOLELY responsible. NO ONE ELSE is to blame for their predicament. These guys are told 1,000 times not to put themselves in a bad position - that they should consider themselves targets.
The minute that Unglesby was hired, you could write the timeline on his "playbook". Don't be surprised to see a filing in the future for "lost opportunity".
It doesn't matter if you are a supporter of JLee or JJ (not to forget Johns).
Be assured that CLM knows the facts. After discussing with the players the night in question, he clearly gave the best reply to JJ in "defend yourself to the fullest".
tards will post the BRPD is at fault which is laughable and sophmorish.
While we all wish the best for the JJ's, they put themselves where they are and they are SOLELY responsible. NO ONE ELSE is to blame for their predicament. These guys are told 1,000 times not to put themselves in a bad position - that they should consider themselves targets.
The minute that Unglesby was hired, you could write the timeline on his "playbook". Don't be surprised to see a filing in the future for "lost opportunity".
Posted on 9/17/11 at 12:53 pm to ShadyTiger182
quote:how many red zone TDs did JJ engineer last year?
Honestly the team could get better with JJ if he comes back. Not as the starting QB. But against MSU there were times where they drove down the field and couldn't punch the ball in. Putting JJ in around the redzone or goal line occasionally would help the running game, IMO. Because they would have to watch for JJ running it and the option or he could throw it. Dont really have to watch for Lee running it.
Posted on 9/17/11 at 12:54 pm to sgent3125
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Now, he quickly denounces the LSU football players, suspends JJ indefinitely
Who did this?
Posted on 9/17/11 at 12:54 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Reinstatement has to do with what is fair, not "who's boy" gets to play. He has served his time and should be reinstated, but should have to work his way up the depth chart. He will come back as number three, most likely.
ok...we completely agree
Posted on 9/17/11 at 12:54 pm to acgeaux129
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A motion for dismissal of charges? Must be innocent.
Just out of curiosity, what do you presume the attorney for an individual who is actually innocent of the charges against him would do?
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