re: Comments about LSU

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It's the Brady priniciple. After a championship season, create a situation so shitty that it's practically impossible not to improve it slightly the next year, and claim you're moving in the right direction.

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THe next 3 years will tell if thats true.

If Coach Miles cant get this team back to 10 win seasons by then I will be all for pulling the plug, but its too early to tell right now with no other viable options available...

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Meyer had a 9-3 season also at UF. Then followed it with 13-1. Then had a 9-4 season (4 losses by 25 points total), but then followed it up with 13-1. Then went 13 and 1 again.

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difference is Meyer had to get a team familiar with his new system(the spread) so not surprising a few losses came that first year, Miles almost and should have gone unbeaten that first year because of Saban's talent, that loss to Tennessee, I don't know how you excuse that.

Meyer went 9-4 in 2007, you're right, but the defense was in rebuilding mode, and Tebow had taken control that year after the NC. once again another rebuilding mini mode, but look how fast they rebounded. Miles on the other hand, (if not for a miracle loss by WVU) lucks into a NC, and the program from there continues to decline. So big difference imo.

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I know. I just hope that fans would give Miles another year when he has an experience OL and jr QB.

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Not to be captain obvious, but this upcoming season, fans will get to learn a lot about the direction of the program.

We play a good OOC schedule with the UNC opener and WVU at home instead of 4 cupcakes. A strong season with hopefully an SEC West Title will put many minds at ease.

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Which would you choose, strictly based on those records and head to head?

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I understand your comparison, but that 5 loss season for coach B had a lot to do with losing a Heisman winning QB to injury.

You also fail to mention coach B has played for 4 BCS NCs and won one himself.

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I understand your comparison, but that 5 loss season for coach B had a lot to do with losing a Heisman winning QB to injury.

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So, coach B doesn't know how to prepare backup quarterbacks too? Coach Brown had this same issue with not preparing a backup quarterback during the BCS Championship game. Maybe Miles isn't so different than other top notch coaches after all. Meyer even had a quarterback win the Heisman and still lost 4 games the same year.

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THe next 3 years will tell if thats true.

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Three years? So, he has to have FIVE shitty seasons in a row before you are ready to pass judgment?

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If Coach Miles cant get this team back to 10 win seasons by then

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10 wins? ONE ten-win season in five years is worth $4 million a year? It's not 1968 any more. We play 12 regular season games, a 13th if we go 6-6 or better and a 14th if we win the SEC West. 10 wins isn't that special any more. And it certainly isn't the one great season out of five that a $4 million a year coach should produce.

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its too early to tell right now

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Possibly, but the handwriting is all over the wall.

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no other viable options available...

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What a bunch of horse shite. It's that same stupid mentality of keeping a shitty coach to avoid the possibility of hiring another shitty coach. It is NEVER a good idea to keep a shitty coach. If you fire him, you MIGHT get another shitty one, or you MIGHT get a good one. If you keep him, you GUARANTEE you'll have a shitty one.

I wish some of you people were my bosses. I'd show up for work three days out of every five, perform like shite and make stupid mistakes practically every week, and you'd not only not fire me, but you'd pay me one of the top 5 or so salaries in the country.

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So, coach B doesn't know how to prepare backup quarterbacks too?

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Huh? There is a big difference in losing a QB that started 2 games total in his career during the offseason and losing the defending Heisman Trophy winning QB into the regular season.

But I guess you're just here to argue. Good luck.

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Just pointing out the facts.

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spin facts to fit their arguments, I am going to do the same

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Which is it?

The facts are that Bob Stoops has been a HC for 11 years and has won less than 11 games only 3 times in those 11 seasons. That's 8 seasons of 11+ wins and 5 of those seasons have been 12+ wins. He has never had back to back seasons of less than 11 wins. He also has never had back to back seasons of 4+ losses.

In comparison, in 9 years of coaching, Miles has 11+ wins 3 times with one of those a 12+ win season. Miles had 4 consecutive seasons of less than 10 wins and 4 consecutive seasons of 4+ losses. In fact, 6 of 9 seasons Miles has been a head coach, his teams have had less than 10 wins and 4 or more losses including the last 2 seasons at LSU.

Trying to justify Miles by pointing to Stoops isn't a valid argument. Stoops has a much more impressive resume and coaching history than Miles at this point.

Same thing with the guy saying, "Uh, duh, why wasn't Meyer fired in 2007?? Huh, why?"

Well because it's fricking stupid and not even comparable.

Remember, 11 years as HC with eight 11+ win seasons. 9 years as HC with three 11+ win seasons.

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a gravel parking lot for at least 2 years.

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I wish I had a million to spend. I would put a nice statue in the middle of a nicely paved lot. That peice of land is special and should be given something to remember it by...IMO.

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Please by all means tell me who is available and willing to coach at LSU that is better than Miles now or 2 years ago....

I'll wait...............

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The typical apologist fallacy. I don't know who is better than Miles and is available. What I do know is that Miles is not acceptable. That's the only thing you need to know to decide whether he should stay. If the status quo is not acceptable, then change is ALWAYS necessary. Yes, there's a chance that the change won't help, but not making the change is GUARANTEED not to help.

So, the bottom line is this...are we satisfied with going .500 in the SEC and not coming anywhere close to winning the West, let alone the overall SEC title? If not, then Miles has to go. Who is available and would come here is irrelevant. Someone out there is better and available, and we have to find him. If we guess wrong the first time, we guess again. And again and again and again until we find him. LSU and Alabama both did this a few times before finding Saban. We can do it again until we find someone else who can help the program reach its potential.