re: Clemson and LSU Bands Who stole from whom?

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I have the proof. I was in the GBFT from '62 - '67 when Bill Swor came to LSU and hired John Edmonds as the arranger. It was Edmonds and Swor who developed the pre-game show, rearranged ALL the fight songs, bought the rights and introduced "Hey Fighting Tigers" (a tune from a Broadway show) and subsequently wrote some of the finest arrangements for marching band that have ever been heard. The next time the chills run down your spine when you hear the notes of "Hold That Tiger" that starts the pre-game show, that's John Edmonds! John was not a Clemson knock-off; he hardly needed to copy anything from anybody. You'll never see John's name anywhere, at least I haven't, but he is a true hero for LSU.

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Spot on, Deacon. I came into the band in 1971 and had a lot to live up to. Dr. William F. Swor was the Bear Bryant of college marching band directors, no question. He married both the military precision with the "Show Band of the South" heritage of Carazo and Long into something wonderfully innovative.

Drop me an email at mike.a.tiger@gmail.com, I'd like to exchange more with you. Edmunds will be mentioned in the band bio that will appear soon in the Galleries Musique section of the La. Music Hall of Fame. You and I share a piece of membership in the LMHOF now as the Tiger Band becomes the first college band to be honored in a hall of fame. LMHOF.org - Louisiana Music Hall of Fame

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LSU was Deaf Valley until some retarded reporter misquoted it as Death Valley.

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Not true.

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It is a myth/misinformation that got started somehow LSU wasn't called Death Valley, but rather Deaf Valley, before the 1980s. I was a freshman at LSU in 1972. I heard it called Death Valley, never Deaf Valley, while I was a student. In fact LSU has been called Death Valley for as long as I can remember, and I have been following LSU since the late 1950s. I doubt anyone who attended LSU during that time was simply mishearing. That said, there was the Deaf Valley Shell Station on the corner of Perkins and College during that era (the early 70s).

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Me, too. I NEVER heard TS referred to as "Deaf" Valley and I've been going to LSU games since 1970. Dale Brown started calling the arse'y Center the "Deaf Dome" sometime in the late '70s early '80s. Perhaps that's where the confusion comes in. Oh, and I do remember Deaf Valley Shell. They used to sell Zig Zags one paper for a nickel.