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re: CEO's Tenure at LSU
Posted on 5/4/17 at 8:14 pm to Mayhawman
Posted on 5/4/17 at 8:14 pm to Mayhawman
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Folks forget that type of offense compliments defenses, particularly ones light in 2deep, and no wonder LSU has had very good D rankings throughout most of his tenur
For sure our offense helped our defensive totals.
Even Lsu offenses that sucked had a good TOP rankings.
During Chavis' tenure we had 2 lsu teams have a top 15 ranking in opponents offensive yards per play. But having a ball controlled offense reduces the amount of plays that the opponent's offense runs and thusly helping your defense stay off the field.
Even our horrible 2014 offense was
9th in the country in TOP.
Posted on 5/4/17 at 8:18 pm to dukke v
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WOW...... THIS is A statement..............
Its really an amazing event. So much so that the counting of time will change.
This year is known as....
1 ARS(after rick's statement)
Posted on 5/4/17 at 8:20 pm to Mayhawman
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So explain away the top 4 spots in LSU SCORINGoffenses, each under different OCs
Not at all indicative of a good offense. Where do they stack up with YPG seriously because I can't find that statistic
Posted on 5/4/17 at 8:29 pm to Howyouluhdat
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Where do they stack up with YPG seriously because I can't find that statistic
YPG is a flawed way to gauge offense.
Yards per play is called a pure stat because it isnt skewed by plays ran.
In 2013 lsu was 11th the country in yards per play but we were 105th in offensive plays ran because we are a ball controlled offense and dont run a HUNH offense.
And that hurt our totals in 2013.
TEAM A
400 yards of offense on 45 plays.
TEAM B
410 yards of offense on 60 plays.
Using totals you would say team B was the better offense.
But its clear which team was the most productive when the ball was snapped instead of being boosted by the amount of plays ran.
This post was edited on 5/4/17 at 8:30 pm
Posted on 5/4/17 at 8:36 pm to Rickdaddy4188
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YPG is a flawed way to gauge offense. Yards per play is called a pure stat because it isnt skewed by plays ran.
I agree. Scoring is as well. I'm sure Bama's was skewed big time this past year.
Posted on 5/4/17 at 8:41 pm to Howyouluhdat
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Bama's was skewed big time this past year.
Cant tell if this is sarcasm.
Just like any stat, it isnt the end all be all for measuring the success of the offense.
This post was edited on 5/4/17 at 8:45 pm
Posted on 5/4/17 at 8:43 pm to Rickdaddy4188
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Cant tell if this is sarcasm.
They had what 12-13 non offensive TD's. Not being sarcastic
Posted on 5/4/17 at 8:47 pm to Howyouluhdat
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They had what 12-13 non offensive TD's. Not being sarcastic
Oh gotcha. You were talking about scoring. My bad.
There are some sites that have rankings of offensive points per games and offensive points per play.
I can shoot you a link if you care about that type of stuff.
Posted on 5/4/17 at 8:55 pm to Rickdaddy4188
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I can shoot you a link if you care about that type of stuff.
Nah I don't care. I was just wondering how those top 4 scoring offenses stacked up all time in the categories that are more indicative of how good the offense really was.
Posted on 5/4/17 at 8:58 pm to Howyouluhdat
You can have your ypg and me ppg
Surely you know ypg never won even one game in cfb?
Surely you know ypg never won even one game in cfb?
Posted on 5/4/17 at 8:59 pm to RedTigerRulz
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I think most people would take this in O's first year....but if its year 4 and we're stuck on 8 wins, there's a problem.
I'm not quite as demanding as some people on here, so if Orgeron were to only win 8 or 9 games next year I wouldn't be calling for his head. That being said, there are some that post here on the rant that bad mouthed Miles for going 11-2 his first year and never gave him credit for having that record despite having to deal with the hurricanes that fricked up the first couple of weeks that year and forced LSU to play 11 straight games without a bye.
And the hiring of Orgeron was supposed to facilitate a continuity of the program since he has been here for a few years. LSU won 8 or 9 games in Miles 4th and 5th years and again in years 10 and 11, with better records in the other 7 seasons along with a couple of SEC Championships and National Game appearances. If Coach O can match or succeed that, I personally would be happy with that.
Posted on 5/4/17 at 9:00 pm to Mayhawman
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You can have your ypg and me ppg Surely you know ypg never won even one game in cfb?
Are we arguing wins or how good Les' offenses were? I'm confused
Posted on 5/4/17 at 9:07 pm to Howyouluhdat
It's in the media guide most never bother to buy or download free
Also the stat is scoring by rushing and passing TDs, no D scoring,not even FGs
Also the stat is scoring by rushing and passing TDs, no D scoring,not even FGs
Posted on 5/4/17 at 9:09 pm to Mayhawman
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Also the stat is scoring by rushing and passing TDs, no D scoring,not even FGs
If true that's very surprising
Posted on 5/4/17 at 9:11 pm to geauxtigers33
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I just don't understand why people won't give the man a chance. What is the harm in that at this point?
Hell, I agree with you. he's the head coach. His first full season is a few months away. I think everyone who is a fan of LSU should give the man their full support, even if he wasn't their first choice. But I am fairly certain that there are some on here that are waiting for him to fail so they can say "I told you so"
quote:
Why sit here and complain every single day about the same things that we won't know the answer to for another 4 months?
Perhaps you should ask that question to the posters that are staring these kind of threads.
Posted on 5/4/17 at 9:17 pm to Howyouluhdat
I could copy paste the pdf img but rather encourage you to order or download
Lots of great stuff that opens eyes and fun fan read
Great piece for your coffee table
Lots of great stuff that opens eyes and fun fan read
Great piece for your coffee table
Posted on 5/4/17 at 9:18 pm to SlowFlowPro
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I think it's because most people are worried (or have just accepted) that we may have hired an inferior coach.
Impossible! The Rant has told me over the years that Miles is the worst coach in America.
quote:
even the pro-O faction is trying to insidiously lower expectations for 17 and 18, even though O was primarily hired for continuity and not to have "gap" seasons
Yes, it does appear to be that way.
Posted on 5/4/17 at 9:19 pm to nitwit
No one said it's a stroke of genius and you could say the AD was the reason an asst coach stayed on with every school. Of course the ad plays a role n hiring staff. But the HC plays a pivotal role obviously and O did with Aranda. What if Aranda didn't value O as a HC. Or didn't like his philosophy? Or him in general. Saying O doesn't get credit for a top DC staying when he could've went anywhere is stupid
Posted on 5/4/17 at 9:41 pm to TheHat7
Bottom line is this.....Les had to GO! What was Mile's specialty? Was it Offense? Cause I musta missed that....... Miles was a recruiter.....and an Offensive line coach before he got his break at OSU.....Gundy was his offensive coordinator that finally got him a respectable record....Incase everyone here forgot....MILES wasn't even on Skips radar before he struck out on his top targets. Everyone absolutely hated the Miles hire because he got his add kicked in their Bowl game.
Give freakin O a chance. He's proven he can recruit. Miles wasn't dominating CFB when LSU hired him, but he squeaked it out for 10+ years sticktly on the talent LSU attracts.
It's just funny to see blast O for being a Dline coach......WHEN MILES WAS AN OLINE coach
Give freakin O a chance. He's proven he can recruit. Miles wasn't dominating CFB when LSU hired him, but he squeaked it out for 10+ years sticktly on the talent LSU attracts.
It's just funny to see blast O for being a Dline coach......WHEN MILES WAS AN OLINE coach
Posted on 5/4/17 at 10:00 pm to Dlab2013
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It's just funny to see blast O for being a Dline coach......WHEN MILES WAS AN OLINE coach
He was an OC and HC also dolt.
Don't blast Eaux, Urban was a WR coach before tOSU
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