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re: Can't really figure y'all out ...

Posted on 12/3/10 at 8:55 pm to
Posted by AAM02
Member since Jun 2010
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Posted on 12/3/10 at 8:55 pm to
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One can argue that LSUs defense will be the toughest defense A&M has seen all year, but i don't think there is any doubt that this will be the most talented and deepest defense that A&M has seen all year. I think that will be the difference, tannehill has not experienced an athletic defense like this and this is where his weaknesses will be exposed IMO. Should be a good game though, Geaux Tigers!



What would y'all say is the strength of y'all's defense? Most of the season I'd say it's y'all's run D. Is this a result of d-line or lb'er play, or both?

Looking at the stats it seems teams have been able to pass on y'all, not with ease for the most part, but fairly consistently.
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
94737 posts
Posted on 12/3/10 at 8:55 pm to
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But y'all weren't there late in the game.


We had the ball with a little over a minute with a chance to prolong the game with a TD and 2-pt conversion. Obviously we didn't get that, but I think that's a fair interpretation of "in it". We were a couple of inches, here or there (literally) from winning this one.

(Likewise, it's fair to say we were a couple of inches, here or there, from losing a couple down the stretch this year, too).

Posted by AAM02
Member since Jun 2010
835 posts
Posted on 12/3/10 at 8:58 pm to
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We had the ball with a little over a minute with a chance to prolong the game with a TD and 2-pt conversion. Obviously we didn't get that, but I think that's a fair interpretation of "in it". We were a couple of inches, here or there (literally) from winning this one


Nah, that's fair. I meant to communicate that y'all seemed to have let up on the throttle in the 2nd half.
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(Likewise, it's fair to say we were a couple of inches, here or there, from losing a couple down the stretch this year, too).



I noticed that too. Reminds me of our 2006 9-win season with Fran, where his motto seemed to be "we only have to have 1 more point than the other team". That was one stressful season.
Posted by D500MAG
Oklahoma
Member since Oct 2010
3965 posts
Posted on 12/3/10 at 9:00 pm to
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We had the ball with a little over a minute with a chance to prolong the game with a TD and 2-pt conversion.


Les ???
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
94737 posts
Posted on 12/3/10 at 9:04 pm to
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I meant to communicate that y'all seemed to have let up on the throttle in the 2nd half.


And that's fair.

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I noticed that too. Reminds me of our 2006 9-win season with Fran, where his motto seemed to be "we only have to have 1 more point than the other team". That was one stressful season.



We've been there a lot lately. There is a certain amount of parity in big league ball. Also, the positive is - there doesn't seem to be a lot of quit in our team. They play to the last whistle.
Posted by OU812
Michigan
Member since Apr 2004
13550 posts
Posted on 12/3/10 at 9:05 pm to
But LSU has Gary Crowton.
Posted by IntnetMillionaireAg
Member since Nov 2010
38 posts
Posted on 12/3/10 at 9:06 pm to
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tannehill has not experienced an athletic defense like this and this is where his weaknesses will be exposed IMO


I don't think you're giving the big 12 enough credit. Sometimes stats get skewed because of the prevalence of the hurry up in our conference. I don't know how many snaps teams in the SEC average per game, but I'd guess it's 60-70/game. In the big 12, teams frequently get over 90 and 100+ has happened several times. So when you see our scores, it's like playing 6-7 quarters of SEC football. Nebraska plays really freaking good defense and OU isn't bad either. They've got a lot of athletes.
Posted by RushTigerLimbaugh
Member since Dec 2009
1284 posts
Posted on 12/3/10 at 9:11 pm to
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aggiealphamale


GET THE frick OUT....

I could care less what some UofT reject thinks about LSU's season.

Oh and by the way, "y'all and y'all's" gets really old after awhile. Might I suggest the words "your and yours" for future reference.
Posted by RushTigerLimbaugh
Member since Dec 2009
1284 posts
Posted on 12/3/10 at 9:12 pm to
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So when you see our scores, it's like playing 6-7 quarters of SEC football.




WOW, just WOW...
Posted by bayoutigernutjob
LOUISIANA
Member since Nov 2007
680 posts
Posted on 12/3/10 at 9:13 pm to
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PLEASE GTFO here!


T H I S!

Posted by AAM02
Member since Jun 2010
835 posts
Posted on 12/3/10 at 9:15 pm to
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GET THE frick OUT....

Feel free to leave my thread.
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I could care less what some UofT reject thinks about LSU's season.


Didn't apply there, and am avoiding all academic smack, thanks.
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Oh and by the way, "y'all and y'all's" gets really old after awhile. Might I suggest the words "your and yours" for future reference.


Your gtfo shtick is great. Yours gonna have to put up with mine. Thank you to all of y'all that are talking football.
Posted by Doc Fenton
New York, NY
Member since Feb 2007
52698 posts
Posted on 12/3/10 at 9:19 pm to
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What would y'all say is the strength of y'all's defense? Most of the season I'd say it's y'all's run D. Is this a result of d-line or lb'er play, or both?

Looking at the stats it seems teams have been able to pass on y'all, not with ease for the most part, but fairly consistently.


You seem confused.

Beyond any shadow of a doubt, LSU has a very good pass defense and a rather bad run defense.

Alabama foolishly tried to pass too much.

Mallett got 3 big plays that skewed the stats for that game (one of them a TD bomb on 4th and 3, and another a 80-yd TD with :06 left in the first half). LSU had a very good plan for defending Arkansas's passing attack, and did well for the most part, but just flat got burned with a couple of terrible plays by #37, in for an injured #15 at safety.

Schematically, Chavis's biggest problem at DC has been prepping for teams with dual-threat QBs like Auburn & Ole Miss. The 4th quarter letdown vs. UNC was just a matter of trying to clear out 10+ new players in the defensive backfield in the first game of the season. I wouldn't read too much into that.

On the offensive side, Gary Crowton is an absolute disaster as an OC, but LSU under Miles has always been excellent at devising schemes tailored for specific opponents when given enough time (hence the typically great bowl games performances, last year excepted).

Whenever LSU looks great on offense, it's a safe bet that it's because we're running a lot of rollouts and play action and having successful busted plays. When we try to do the things that Crowton actually wants to do, we're terrible. That said, LSU still managed to have the 2nd best running game in the SEC behind Auburn (although one could argue that Alabama or Miss. State was better depending on how you interpret the stats).

LSU definitely had the #1 pass defense in the SEC though, and is near the bottom of the league in passing offense and running defense.
Posted by Elle a shoe
Watson, LA
Member since May 2009
845 posts
Posted on 12/3/10 at 9:25 pm to
I have a feeling that Ford will get a lot of carries in this game and will have a "break out" performance 150-200yds.

LSU - 31
TAMU - 20

Posted by AAM02
Member since Jun 2010
835 posts
Posted on 12/3/10 at 9:28 pm to
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You seem confused.



1st day on here and trying to figure y'all's team out, so yeah that's fair. haha

Thanks for the post.
Posted by AAM02
Member since Jun 2010
835 posts
Posted on 12/3/10 at 9:31 pm to
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I have a feeling that Ford will get a lot of carries in this game and will have a "break out" performance 150-200yds.



What are y'all's backs like? Our running D has been pretty stout, though mobile QBs gave us some trouble earlier in the season, we've done a good job of keeping RBs well below their averages.
Posted by jladne3
Seabrook, TX
Member since Nov 2010
1295 posts
Posted on 12/3/10 at 9:35 pm to
Ok in any thread there will be fans that want the opposing fans out and its the same here on TD and TexAgs.

But im here to talk to football, so to answer your question I believe its a toss up on our D, it seems like we have commited to just one aspect for each game during the season. One game our run D is crazy good (Alabama Game) on another night our pass D is amazing (Miss St. & West Virginia game) fortunately when your D has played bad our offense has stepped up (Ole Miss game) and the two games lost our defense and special teams gave us plenty of opportunities our offense just would not capitalize, it seemed like our offense would only respond but never take the initiative (Arkansas game, int's blocked punt etc..) I have gone to every home game and the North Carolina game and our defense is full of playmakers, really atheltic kids that can run. Yes OU and nebraska obviously have these guys to but i believe where beat them is on our Dline and depth at the skill posistions on the Defense. Our Dlinemen r running on avg solid 4.7 40s across the whole Dline. Your young oline (especially the tackles) won't be able to keep up with this. I thnk we can get a lot of pressure on Tannehill and when he scrambles our LBs our to fast for him to out run. Just an opinion though, we will see on Jan 7, Geaux Tigers!
Posted by Doc Fenton
New York, NY
Member since Feb 2007
52698 posts
Posted on 12/3/10 at 9:37 pm to
Sure thing.

I do a lot of tracking stats among all the SEC teams, and I put together a compilation for SEC-only games in a thread over on the SEC Rant: LINK. Maybe you'll find it interesting.

Anyway, looking forward to a good game. Gotta give LSU a little edge in any bowl game (LSU 10 bowl wins is #2 in the country since 1995, behind only Georgia's 11), but TAMU might be a bad matchup for us. I still remember the first LSU game I ever watched on ESPN as a little kid, which I think was the 1987 game at College Station when Tommy Hodson was a sophomore.

ANd LOLZ at Texas's offense only averaging 19 ppg in the Big XII this year!!!
Posted by GeauxLSU8
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2005
4242 posts
Posted on 12/3/10 at 9:38 pm to
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UT - nice D again. Rushing game wins the game in a last second TD


Well technically it was after the last second but who's counting?
Posted by Doc Fenton
New York, NY
Member since Feb 2007
52698 posts
Posted on 12/3/10 at 9:43 pm to
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What are y'all's backs like?


Our workhorse is #34 Ridley, and he's been great this year. Unfortunately, we do this stupid shite where we always try to run him sidewise out of the shitty pistol formation on read runs with JJ at QB. That being said, after years of frustration, JJ has finally figured out how to run the option, so that's a plus for us (because he sure as shite sucks as a pocket passer out of multiple-receiver shotgun formations).

I like it best when we run out of the power-I with #16 Ware at FB (he's more like a regular RB than a FB) and #42 Ford at TB, but unfortunately we only do this once in a blue moon.

Sometimes we'll play #18 Murphy a lot, but nobody really knows why. He's quick and agile, but hasn't really been good at being a receiver, so it's not really an advantage for us when he's in the game.

Everybody has wanted our QB-converted-to-WR #10 Shepard to get more running opportunities, but this just hasn't panned out this year.
Posted by jladne3
Seabrook, TX
Member since Nov 2010
1295 posts
Posted on 12/3/10 at 9:51 pm to
Yea I wish we would give R. Sheppard more touches. He could be our version of "Percy Harvin" but even more dangerous bc he can pass the ball. He's definitely a threat when he has the ball in his hands, homerun hitter. I guess Crowton would rather stick to the useless pistol offense...
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