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re: Can we give props to O for delivering on his promise?
Posted on 9/8/17 at 1:29 pm to Goldrush25
Posted on 9/8/17 at 1:29 pm to Goldrush25
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Wanting to fire a guy after one game is an overreaction. I don't know how else to say it. It's curious that you're trying to insuinuate the fans you're quoting are of rational mind. Really illuminates your lack of judgment.
Yeah, you're right. A few message board fans don't matter. The way the 70,000 or so fans at the game were throwing trash on the field in appreciation of the coaching job proves that.
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Criticism is certainly fair. Wanting him fired is a disproportionate reaction to the single event that occurred.
Go tell the Texas fans. I hope UT extends Herman for 20 years with a buyout so big there is no way the can ever fire him.
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Posted on 9/8/17 at 1:33 pm to Rickdaddy4188
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he is already claiming the o hire a success after 2 games
More pointing out that Coach Eaux has been a hell of a lot more successful than the kissing bandit in the same time span since Eaux took over as IHC of LSU.
One is 7-2 and the other is 4-4 with four losses to less talented teams that Herman was favored - two of the games he was favored by close to or over 20 points and still laid an egg.
Want me to do a "Coach A" and "Coach B" that you are so fond of?
This post was edited on 9/8/17 at 1:34 pm
Posted on 9/8/17 at 1:33 pm to Tiger Ree
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Tigerree
hey bud. it's not your fault..
hey hey tigerree....
it's not your fault.
you should've been posting during the game. I was defending O and our okay.
I freely admit I might be wrong about the hiren but it's too early for me to outright admit. I do like what I'm seeing
Posted on 9/8/17 at 1:35 pm to Tiger Ree
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More pointing out that Coach Eaux has been a hell of a lot more successful than the kissing bandit in the same time span since Eaux took over as IHC of LSU.
one was a head coach of a program and one was at a program built by another person.
but please enlighten us how you don't give Miles credit for his 1st 2 years at lsu yet credit o for an interim tenure.
I assure you you don't want to bring up the last time anyone let O actually put his fingerprints on a program
Posted on 9/8/17 at 1:35 pm to Goldrush25
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Well at least his thinking is internally consistent. Irrational of course, but consistent
You realize you are responding to a guy who wanted to hire the guy who is 4-4 in his last 8 games based solely on what he did in his FIRST season. Irrational is not his middle name, but his first.
Posted on 9/8/17 at 1:36 pm to BananaHammock
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Yet in your previous post, you referenced his winning percentage as interim coach.
His attempts to bash, know no bounds.
Posted on 9/8/17 at 1:37 pm to Tiger Ree
Throwing trash on the field is also an irrational behavior, probably induced in large part by alcohol. You want to continue defending irrational idiots?
Posted on 9/8/17 at 1:38 pm to BananaHammock
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Yet in your previous post, you referenced his winning percentage as interim coach.
because his interim tenure is the entire basis for Tigerree wanting him hired.
at least try to keep up.
Posted on 9/8/17 at 1:40 pm to Tiger Ree
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His attempts to bash, know no bounds
posting facts isnt bashing. it's called reality.
I used interim win % because its your entire basis on wanting o hired.
Posted on 9/8/17 at 1:44 pm to Rickdaddy4188
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you should've been posting during the game. I was defending O and our okay.
Don't believe you but if you did it was probably only because you saw the Texas game and jumped off the KB's band wagon so fast and hard you accidently landed on the LSU wagon or had absolutely no where else to go at the time.
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I freely admit I might be wrong about the hire
But yet, here you are arguing against the hire.
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but it's too early for me to outright admit. I do like what I'm seeing
Everybody knows your feelings for Tom Herman and how you built him up. You won't even admit that it looks like you may have been wrong about him even when it is obvious to everyone else. I don't expect you to ever "outright admit" you were wrong about Eaux. You've invested way too much to ever do that.
Posted on 9/8/17 at 1:49 pm to Tiger Ree
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Everybody knows your feelings for Tom Herman and how you built him up. You won't even admit that it looks like you may have been wrong about him even when it is obvious to everyone else. I don't expect you to ever "outright admit" you were wrong about Eaux. You've invested way too much to ever do that.
What is this affinity you have for small sample sizes? Why do you want others to project a career track based off of one or a few games? I know you do it but why do you insist others do it?
If you were so confident all you'd have to say is time will tell. It's almost as if you know things might not turn out your way in the future so you have to get your pontificating in right now.
Seriously, I would like for you to explain to me the logic behind using small sample sizes to predict a career track, and why it's more accurate than using larger sample sizes.
This post was edited on 9/8/17 at 1:55 pm
Posted on 9/8/17 at 1:51 pm to Rickdaddy4188
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please enlighten us how you don't give Miles credit for his 1st 2 years at lsu
Dude, one of your 3 brain cells is totally screwed up. I have never said anything negative about Miles first 7 years at LSU or probably the last 5 for that matter. I like CLM.
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I assure you you don't want to bring up the last time anyone let O actually put his fingerprints on a program
You are WRONG again.
I will gladly bring it up. Let's see, here are just a few:
1) Fired Cam Cameron
2) Fired Bradley Dale Peveto
3) Fired Dameyune Craig (recruiting coordinator last class - had a WR committed since the previous year and found out on signing day the guy would not qualify. Not a good WR's coach.
4) Fired Jabar Juluke - RB coach responsible for Derrius Guice going the wrong way and missing out on every RB recruit except one.
5) Extended Dave Aranda.
6) Promoted Dennis Johnson (Meatball) who out-recruited Tom Herman for K'lavon Chaisson.
7) Hired Tommie Robinson RB coach - the nation's #2 rated recruiter for the 2017 class. Has coached in the NFL as well as college.
8) Hired Matt Canada OC - the only Broyles award candidate on the offensive side of the ball last season who had the 9th ranked scoring offense in the country.
9) Hired Mickey Joseph WR - has life long ties to the New Orleans and Louisiana and has been recruiting the area for years.
10) Hired Pete Jenkins DL - Probably the most well known and acclaimed D-Line coach in football - college and pro.
11) Had the #7 ranked recruiting class after being the HC at LSU for 3 months and that was with only 23 signees. Not to mention pulling the #1 ILB, #4 WDE, #11 ILB and #11 safety in the nation either a few days prior to or on signing day.
How's that for fingerprints ???
Posted on 9/8/17 at 1:53 pm to Goldrush25
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Throwing trash on the field is also an irrational behavior, probably induced in large part by alcohol. You want to continue defending irrational idiots?
Are you defending their coach that cost the team the game with his bone-headed calls?
Posted on 9/8/17 at 1:57 pm to Tiger Ree
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Don't believe you but if you did it was probably only because you saw the Texas game and jumped off the KB's band wagon so fast and hard you accidently landed on the LSU wagon or had absolutely no where else to go at the time.
you still don't understand that instant a champions for Herman. I used him because you constantly didn't give him credit for his 1st year yet gave O credit for an interim tenure.
there were dozens of other more qualified coordinators let alone has
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But yet, here you are arguing against the hire.
no I'm not. I did say it's not a good hiring practice to hire some that never been a successful coordinator or successful head coach. as long as we keep winning a good % I'm fine with O.
only an idiot would claim o has been unsuccessful since being named head coach.
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Everybody knows your feelings for Tom Herman and how you built him up
if by built him up you mean called out your inconsistent logic then sure. youre literllay the only person that act like I'm this huge Herman fan. I simply repeatedly called put your flawed and inconsistent logic and you took thatbhoe mean I'm a huge Herman fan. I couldn't care less if he wins another game in his life.
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You won't even admit that it looks like you may have been wrong about him even when it is obvious to everyone else.
wrong about what? the fact that you applied logic to Herman that you didn't appy to O? I'm not wrong about that.
I've never claimed he was a great coach. I factually stated that his tenure at Houston was better than the time O was allowed to run a program. that's a fact.
the last time o was allowed to make long term decisions at a program it ended in the worst tenure ever at a program full of shite tenures. that's a a fact. Herman's Houston tenure was better than that. I'm sorry that fact bothers you.
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You've invested way too much to ever do that.
I've invested nothing into Herman except calling out your own ignorant hypocrisy of not giving a coach credit for his 1st year yet giving o credit for an interim tenure. the fact that you took that as me loving Herman just proves how fricking stupid you are.
Posted on 9/8/17 at 1:58 pm to Tiger Ree
No, I just said that criticism is certainly warranted to losing that game to that opponent. Pay attention.
I simply said it's irrational to think a guy is a bum because he lost a single game, even though it was a bad loss. Many coaches would've had their careers castrated if they were canned after a bad loss. Again, I'm in favor of the body of work, instead of reacting to variance.
I'm certainly interested into your methodology of projecting a coach's career track based on a few games.
I simply said it's irrational to think a guy is a bum because he lost a single game, even though it was a bad loss. Many coaches would've had their careers castrated if they were canned after a bad loss. Again, I'm in favor of the body of work, instead of reacting to variance.
I'm certainly interested into your methodology of projecting a coach's career track based on a few games.
This post was edited on 9/8/17 at 2:03 pm
Posted on 9/8/17 at 2:01 pm to Goldrush25
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Why do you want others to project a career track based off of one or a few games? I know you do it but why do you insist others do it?
I am not insisting anything. If you can't understand the fact that the guy who in his first season went 13-1 then took his #6 nationally ranked team to unranked losing to 3 more underdogs his second season, is not good, that's on you.
His first year was extremely good, his second season totally sucked. Is that not a track record to consider?
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If you were so confident all you'd have to say is time will tell. It's almost as if you know things might not turn out your way in the future so you have to get your pontificating in right now
Oh no, I'm not like Rich-Momma. I will readily admit if I am wrong. I just haven't seen one damn thing since last October to make me feel there is even a slight possibility I could be.
What has Herman done the last 12 months that have you so impressed? When do you maybe wonder if you were wrong about him and admit you are glad he is not the coach at LSU? Long time coming, huh?
Posted on 9/8/17 at 2:05 pm to Tiger Ree
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Oh no, I'm not like Rich-Momma. I will readily admit if I am wrong. I just haven't seen one damn thing since last October to make me feel there is even a slight possibility I could be.
What has Herman done the last 12 months that have you so impressed? When do you maybe wonder if you were wrong about him and admit you are glad he is not the coach at LSU? Long time coming, huh?
There you go with the small sample size again.
If we lend equal weight to each of the seasons, then we have a great season and an ok season. You're portraying his last season as a disaster and it was 9-4, which is not bad by any measure. Even still, why do you lend greater weight to last season than you do the first season?
Posted on 9/8/17 at 2:10 pm to Tiger Ree
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You are WRONG again.
I will gladly bring it up. Let's see, here are just a few:
1) Fired Cam Cameron
2) Fired Bradley Dale Peveto
3) Fired Dameyune Craig (recruiting coordinator last class - had a WR committed since the previous year and found out on signing day the guy would not qualify. Not a good WR's coach.
4) Fired Jabar Juluke - RB coach responsible for Derrius Guice going the wrong way and missing out on every RB recruit except one.
want the head coach.
everything else he gets credit for
Posted on 9/8/17 at 2:17 pm to Rickdaddy4188
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you still don't understand that instant a champions for Herman
You are right? I don't have a clue and can't understand what this gibberish is.
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I used him because you constantly didn't give him credit for his 1st year yet gave O credit for an interim tenure.
You used him because he is the guy you wanted as HC of LSU. You could have used a myriad of other examples but chose poorly. It had nothing to do with me and my support of the current LSU HC.
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there were dozens of other more qualified coordinators let alone has
has what?
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But yet, here you are arguing against the hire.
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no I'm not.
You are so full of shite.
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I did say it's not a good hiring practice to hire some that never been a successful coordinator or successful head coach
And so far have been shown to not know shite.
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only an idiot would claim o has been unsuccessful since being named head coach.
then why are you in this thread? Are you touting the positives?
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literllay the only person that act like I'm this huge Herman fan. I simply repeatedly called put your flawed and inconsistent logic and you took thatbhoe
Started early today huh? Won't be too long for me either. Later tonight we can argue with each other with neither of us knowing what the other is even trying to type.
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the last time o was allowed to make long term decisions at a program it ended in the worst tenure ever at a program full of shite tenures. that's a a fact. Herman's Houston tenure was better than that. I'm sorry that fact bothers you.
Coach Eaux has been making long-term decisions for LSU since November of last year. You, yourself just said someone would have to be an idiot to not realize that. Are you changing your mind?
Posted on 9/8/17 at 2:18 pm to Tiger Ree
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Oh no, I'm not like Rich-Momma. I will readily admit if I am wrong. I just haven't seen one damn thing since last October to make me feel there is even a slight possibility I could be.
what? is youre reading comprehension skills worse than already thought?
I've said I readily admit I couldve been wrong about O. I have never been a champion of Tom Herman. I merely repeatedly calked out your hypocrisy on him and in your mind that was championing him.
I've never called him a great coach. I have said he had a better resume than O. he did. even our own ad wanted him over O ok sorry that people thought your dad wasnt qualified for the lsu job. but hey he is proving us wrong
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