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re: Calling all Nega's......time to adjust
Posted on 10/12/14 at 12:44 pm to BayouBndt
Posted on 10/12/14 at 12:44 pm to BayouBndt
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Not a nega but a realist.
This is the ole' standby for nega's.....yet, if you are a realist, then you have seen LSU have at least 8 wins for the last 9 years under miles...that just doesn't jive.
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Our QB situation is bad. Harris gives us a brighter future in my opinion. Yea he did horrible at Auburn
I don't disagree with this. Posi tigers can also have concerns, and this is a major concern. I think Jennings will get a little better, but I agree harris has most upside. That said, Harris doesn't even have a grasp of the playbook yet....that was clear. You propose we throw him out there when he doesn't always know where to go with the ball?
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And from past experience Inthink it will be hard to get to 8.
This is the one that just makes me
Posted on 10/12/14 at 12:47 pm to BuckheadBetty
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does my JD/MBA count as highly educated or are you hoping for something much more educated than that? Let me know if you need an explanation on either.
I also have an MBA, with an accounting degree and CPA.....I can tell you for 100% certain, judging by your posts, that you are completely full of shite.
Posted on 10/12/14 at 12:49 pm to Nuts4LSU
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Nuts4LSU
HEY NUTS...
"Lsu will NEVER win another SEC Championship or EVER beat Urban Meyer or Saban again, as long as Les Miles is here"...signed NUTS4LSU, 2009.
Your prediction here is well-noted...thanks bud. Highly respected.
Posted on 10/12/14 at 12:52 pm to ballscaster
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Probably win 9 or 10 games
9 is possible. 10 is farfetched
No, it's not. If you're a top 10 team, and you have four top ten teams on your schedule (AU, MSU, UM, Bama) and you get three of them at home, I don't think it's far-fetched to expect to split those games 2-2 and beat all the lesser teams to finish 10-2. Why do you think that's far-fetched?
Posted on 10/12/14 at 12:57 pm to Tigerinthehollow
We won a cripple fight last night because Driskel is awful and our kicker is decent.
Posted on 10/12/14 at 12:58 pm to Tigerinthehollow
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HEY NUTS...
"Lsu will NEVER win another SEC Championship or EVER beat Urban Meyer or Saban again, as long as Les Miles is here"...signed NUTS4LSU, 2009.
Your prediction here is well-noted...thanks bud. Highly respected.
Yep. I was wrong about that. We did win one more SEC title and we did beat Meyer once (during his inexplicable implosion in his 7-6 season in 2010) and Saban twice after that.
And you are predicting an 8-4 finish this year. I assume you'll stop posting (or at least stop expecting anyone to take you seriously) if we go 7-5 or worse, right?
Posted on 10/12/14 at 12:59 pm to Tigerinthehollow
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Posted by Tigerinthehollow
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Not a nega but a realist.
This is the ole' standby for nega's.....yet, if you are a realist, then you have seen LSU have at least 8 wins for the last 9 years under miles...that just doesn't jive.
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Our QB situation is bad. Harris gives us a brighter future in my opinion. Yea he did horrible at Auburn
I don't disagree with this. Posi tigers can also have concerns, and this is a major concern. I think Jennings will get a little better, but I agree harris has most upside. That said, Harris doesn't even have a grasp of the playbook yet....that was clear. You propose we throw him out there when he doesn't always know where to go with the ball?
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And from past experience Inthink it will be hard to get to 8.
This is the one that just makes me If you are truly going on past experience, please tell me which year it was that Miles did not win at least 8 games in a season?
It's not about winning 8 games every year. If that's what you want then you must settle for a lot in life. It's seeing what works for your team and making adjustments. If the passing game is not working do something different not be content to just run with no passing game. That formula will not make you an elite team. Jennings has not shown that he is a competent passer Harris has shown some. There are plenty of examples where miles will not adjust at the QB position when it is obvious he should. I think most of us has chalked this season up to getting experience on our young team. So BH goes the wrong direction sometimes there is no better way to learn than trial by fire. If he wilts then he shouldn't be playing D1 football.
Posted on 10/12/14 at 1:14 pm to Nuts4LSU
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We did win one more SEC title and we did beat Meyer once
after 2009....same as bama right? yes or no?
Meyer never beat Miles again? Yes or no
Saban is 2-2 in miles since then during the regular season (3-2 overall). LSU has a real shot at making is 3 out of 5 regular season since your bold prediction.
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And you are predicting an 8-4 finish this year. I assume you'll stop posting (or at least stop expecting anyone to take you seriously) if we go 7-5 or worse, right?
Why would I quit posting? I said immediately after losing to Auburn, when everyone was predicting worst in West, 4-8, etc...that LSU would go 7-5 with shot at 8-4. I stand by that. I could be wrong. However, it is not some knee-jerk, over-reaction as you and all that doom and gloom saying Miles would NEVER beat Saban or Meyer or win the SEC again. That is just ignorant to predict, for a coach that has won 80% of his games. Honestly, I don't remember many posts from years ago. I couldn't get in the thread because at the time I was not signed up.....but it just stuck with me.....and I remembered the name and how ignorant that was.
Posted on 10/12/14 at 1:18 pm to BayouBndt
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So BH goes the wrong direction sometimes there is no better way to learn than trial by fire. If he wilts then he shouldn't be playing D1 football.
How can you people not understand this. Without giving anything away, this wasn't an EXCEPTION for BH. Everything you said is right. But, as a coach, how do you put a guy in, albeit more talented, who has consistently demonstrated he can't get a grasp of the playbook.....??? You can't do that, as a head coach in at this level...you just can't. You try and help the kid all you can. I don't understand why you can't see what is going on.
Posted on 10/12/14 at 1:21 pm to dgnx6
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This team will go 8-5 and set us up for 2 more good seasons before Les rides out and we sink back to 3 win seasons like the rest of you guys have been waiting for since 2005.
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dgnx6
And this piece of shite right here represents the other end of the spectrum. So when Miles does leave he'll be rooting against LSU so all the critical fans "get what they deserve for shitting on poor pitiful Les all them years"
Meanwhile Les wouldn't trade two shits for you. He gets paid $4 mill a year. That's why he's at LSU. Miles isn't and will never be LSU.
So when he does leave take your dicksuckers and kiss hiss arse off into the sunset you anti-LSU motherfricker.
This post was edited on 10/12/14 at 1:22 pm
Posted on 10/12/14 at 3:01 pm to Tigerinthehollow
1. auburn, fla and georgia have had LOSING SEASONS since miles became coach at lsu. tenn and ark are completely off the map. spurrier had 2 7-5 seasons in '08 and'09 but lost to conneticut in the '09 bowl game. he was 6-6 in '07. yet, miles gets no credit for avoiding this kind of a letdown - over the course of 9 seasons.
2. in the last 2 weeks, saban has done 2 things miles haters find unacceptable; lost to ole miss, have a letdown against a bad team. this can only happen to miles because he sucks, right?
i am not happy about this season. we are painful to watch. the worst i've seen since '99. however, to think miles isn't a good coach is just ignoring the big picture.
even if miles never wins another game at lsu, his legacy as a nearly legendary sec coach has already been secured. his first 9 seasons are only topped by a very, very short list of sec coaches who are pretty much legends.
i will repeat myself yet again, the sec can't be the toughest conference if a buffoon has such a high winning percentage and has won so many games.
for the "realists"
2. in the last 2 weeks, saban has done 2 things miles haters find unacceptable; lost to ole miss, have a letdown against a bad team. this can only happen to miles because he sucks, right?
i am not happy about this season. we are painful to watch. the worst i've seen since '99. however, to think miles isn't a good coach is just ignoring the big picture.
even if miles never wins another game at lsu, his legacy as a nearly legendary sec coach has already been secured. his first 9 seasons are only topped by a very, very short list of sec coaches who are pretty much legends.
i will repeat myself yet again, the sec can't be the toughest conference if a buffoon has such a high winning percentage and has won so many games.
for the "realists"
Posted on 10/12/14 at 3:16 pm to BayouBndt
quote:Typical CORFer who is stricken with an obvious mental disorder whose chief symptom is the sincere belief that the successes and/or failures of one's preferred sports team reflect directly on the character of a person.
It's not about winning 8 games every year. If that's what you want then you must settle for a lot in life.
You obviously have no idea how stupid it is to connect the two. Because of that, I laugh at you. Ha.
Posted on 10/12/14 at 3:19 pm to Barry Badrinath
quote:I have to give credit where credit is due. You shitty sidewalk Negatigers have really cut down on the instances where when someone talks about Les Miles, you think of men performing oral sex on each other. I still don't know why you think of men performing oral sex on each other when Les Miles is brought up in conversation, but I have to admit, you boys do it a lot less than you used to.
So when he does leave take your dicksuckers and kiss hiss arse off into the sunset you anti-LSU motherfricker.
Posted on 10/12/14 at 3:33 pm to ballscaster
I like how you think anyone being slightly critical is a sidewalk fan, and everyone pumping sunshine out the arse is an alumnus. You know it's possible for people who have attended and graduated from LSU to be critical of the coaches and people who haven't stepped foot in a LSU classroom to be a sunshine pumper, right?
Your inflated sense of self-worth on this board has been quite amusing.
Your inflated sense of self-worth on this board has been quite amusing.
Posted on 10/12/14 at 3:53 pm to GCTiger11
quote:It's dishonesty like this that makes every single point of virtually all you Negs completely dismissable. Every single person who likes LSU football is at least slightly critical of Les Miles, myself included. This is the defense mechanism just about every one of you uses: exaggerate the opposing point of view to make your own unrealistic and unreasonable point of view appear more valider.
I like how you think anyone being slightly critical is a sidewalk fan,
I'll give an example from the LSU fans' side:
I like how you would rather watch a journalist get beheaded than see LSU win a football game.
See? That's stupid and unreasonable. What I said above applies to none of us just like your opening clause stating that I (and implying that the following applies to the other fans as well) think that anyone being slightly critical is a sidewalk fan applies to no one.
quote:"I demand success from my teams."
Your inflated sense of self-worth on this board has been quite amusing.
This post was edited on 10/12/14 at 3:56 pm
Posted on 10/12/14 at 4:29 pm to Nuts4LSU
quote:Yep
So you spend most of your post explaining to us that LSU doesn't have better talent than good SEC teams, but then, despite said lack of talent (your opinion), you somehow see...
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a really bright future
quote:Oh, I think both will happen. Auburn is losing Nick Marshall and Cameron Artiss-Payne, and most probably Duke Williams. They will drop off some. Ole Miss is losing Bo Wallace, a 3 yr starter at QB. Bama is losing Sims, a 5th yr senior, and probably Yeldon and Cooper. Miss St will lose a ton, including most probably Dak Prescott.
Are we going to get more talented to achieve this really bright future? Wouldn't that require at least a couple of recruiting classes and then an additional couple of years for them to develop? Or will our SEC rivals get less talented?
Against that, LSU will return experienced players at every skill position, 2 deep. Our O-line will have a year with their new coach under their belt.
Our offense will be much better than now, and much better in comparison to our opponents.
edited for typo
This post was edited on 10/12/14 at 4:31 pm
Posted on 10/12/14 at 5:29 pm to Nuts4LSU
quote:Auburn and Alabama are maxed out on talent, so they can only drop. And the Mississippis DAMN sure ain't gonna be this good forever. The current SEC west is the best division of any conference ever. Obviously it won't always be this good, and LSU usually is better than they are this year.
Or will our SEC rivals get less talented?
You are really fighting hard to prove how bad LSU is.
Posted on 10/14/14 at 7:30 am to Tigerinthehollow
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We did win one more SEC title and we did beat Meyer once
after 2009....same as bama right? yes or no?
Not sure what you mean here. Bama has won one SEC title (but two national titles and a kick-six from two and three, respectively) after 2009. Like LSU, I think they beat Meyer and Florida in 2010 (in a blowout, if I recall correctly). Nevertheless, I don't think Bama's accomplishments are relevant here, aside from their games against LSU.
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Meyer never beat Miles again? Yes or no
They only faced each other one time after 2009, and LSU won 33-29 on a TD with 6 seconds left during Meyer's inexplicable meltdown 7-6 season in 2010.
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Saban is 2-2 in miles since then during the regular season (3-2 overall). LSU has a real shot at making is 3 out of 5 regular season since your bold prediction.
Not sure why you want to limit to regular season games (well, actually, I know why you want to, just don't understand the validity of it), but yes, LSU has beaten Saban twice since I made the prediction.
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Why would I quit posting? I said immediately after losing to Auburn, when everyone was predicting worst in West, 4-8, etc...that LSU would go 7-5 with shot at 8-4. I stand by that. I could be wrong.
If you are wrong, wouldn't that make you an absolute and complete moron, since being wrong on a prediction is all it takes?
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it is not some knee-jerk, over-reaction as you and all that doom and gloom saying Miles would NEVER beat Saban or Meyer or win the SEC again. That is just ignorant to predict
I don't think anyone predicted Meyer's sudden implosion in 2010. Even with same, we barely won that game. Meyer has never had another season like that, before or since, so I don't think it was ignorant to predict that he would continue to have great teams (as he has, with that odd 2010 exception) and beat LSU.
As for beating Saban and winning the SEC, yes, I did expect us to lose to Alabama in 2010 and was wrong about that. The other win, in 2011, really fulfilled both of those (Saban win and SEC title), but as demonstrated two months later, it was certainly not ignorant to predict Alabama to win that game and LSU not to win the SEC that year, especially when the prediction was made two years out.
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for a coach that has won 80% of his games.
Not sure how much it matters, but after the 2009 season, he had won 77% of his games, with 60% of his losses having occurred in the last two years and two-thirds of his wins having occurred in the first three years. This was after peaking at 85% at the conclusion of his third season. Having picked up the pace to 49-12 since 2009, his winning percentage is back up to 79%.
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Honestly, I don't remember many posts from years ago. I couldn't get in the thread because at the time I was not signed up.....but it just stuck with me.....and I remembered the name and how ignorant that was.
The prediction was wrong, no doubt about that. However, you do realize, don't you, that there have been a total of six games that have fallen under that prediction (5 vs. Bama, 1 vs. Florida), three of which deviated from the prediction by a grand combined total of 10 points (two 3-point wins over Bama, one of which also basically gave us the SEC title I said we wouldn't win, and one 4-point win over Florida). Being off on three games by a grand total of 10 points makes the prediction wrong, but ignorant and completely moronic? You're entitled to your opinion, but you should be willing to judge your own predictions just as harshly if they should turn out to be wrong, too.
This post was edited on 10/14/14 at 7:40 am
Posted on 10/14/14 at 7:55 am to ballscaster
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You are really fighting hard to prove how bad LSU is.
No, I'm trying to understand how a team that is supposedly not talented (your implied opinion of LSU, not mine) somehow has a bright future. Either we're talented, which means we're underachieving now but may have a bright future, or we're not, which means we're doing about like we should now, but need to add talent through recruiting to have a bright future.
To me, it seems pretty obvious that most of the SEC West, and maybe most of the SEC period, are more talented than we are. That may excuse losses this year (although it does highlight some recruiting misses, which is on the coaching staff), but does not point to a bright future unless recruiting improves in a couple of specific areas (QB and DL in particular). We signed a highly rated class last year and others before that, but in the DL especially, we have not filled needs the last couple of years, which is why the boatload of early NFL defections is having the impact it's having.
Posted on 10/26/14 at 9:43 pm to Putty
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Your memory did not serve you. You are of course speaking of the game at Kyle Feild when we were #6 and undefeated ad aTm was #20?
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It doesn't. We were favored in that game in 2012, ranked in the top 10 while they were barely in the top 20.
And those rankings are supposed to mean what when it comes to the logic (or lack there of) of the Rant.
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