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re: Breakdown of Production By QB

Posted on 10/12/10 at 4:33 pm to
Posted by OBUDan
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
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Posted on 10/12/10 at 4:33 pm to
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And I rightfully called you an idiot for thinking that you had stumbled upon something with such a small sample size. The results of this week threw your entire stupid theory out of the window.



Wait, so my small sample size is stupid, but when it proves your point... "RIGHT THE frick ON!"

You are incredulous.
Posted by OBUDan
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
40723 posts
Posted on 10/12/10 at 4:34 pm to
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Nobody is crowning him King .


I posted a link to a thread earlier saying he could win the Heisman.

I've seen other threads saying we would have won 2 or 3 more last year with him.

etc. etc. etc.
Posted by OBUDan
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
40723 posts
Posted on 10/12/10 at 4:36 pm to
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How many times did JJ takes us down the field and score a TD--- 0 .


How many times did JJ get a drive that started on the UF 38?

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but JL took us down the field all night . Except one time . So if you are saying both QB's were equally effective , I say you are an idiot .


For Lee taking us down the field all night, he only managed to get 20 more yards than JJ out of our offense.

Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
296051 posts
Posted on 10/12/10 at 4:37 pm to
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I posted a link to a thread earlier saying he could win the Heisman.

I've seen other threads saying we would have won 2 or 3 more last year with him.

etc. etc. etc.



Yeah, a couple of posts constitute the whole freaking fanbase.
Posted by OBUDan
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
40723 posts
Posted on 10/12/10 at 4:38 pm to
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Yeah, a couple of posts constitute the whole freaking fanbase.


You're right, there haven't been overly glowing reviews written about Jarrett Lee since the Tennessee game. None at all.
Posted by Books
BR
Member since Jun 2005
11174 posts
Posted on 10/12/10 at 4:40 pm to
this thread is stupid. Can spin it however you want but the offense is a LOT better w/ Lee than Jordan, and it's not close. Players on the team are coming out and saying as much
Posted by Nastycuts22
Tampa, FL
Member since Jan 2010
154 posts
Posted on 10/12/10 at 4:40 pm to
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For Lee taking us down the field all night, he only managed to get 20 more yards than JJ out of our offense



How many drives did lee start ? 5 ? and produced 4td drives . How many drives did JJ start ? 7-8 ? O td drives . common sense
Posted by jdrumdog
baton rouge, la
Member since Jan 2010
7655 posts
Posted on 10/12/10 at 4:42 pm to
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We had more yards.
More yards per play when JJ was in there.


Your using one statistic. It's like saying who's the better QB, Peyton Manning or David Garrard?

Maybe you'd answer Manning, but Garrard threw for more yards Sunday. Does that make him the better QB?

Maybe you're just saying that for one game, JJ had more yards with the offense, therefore, the offense looked better with him in it?

You have to admit, when you look at that statement, it just looks silly. Something doesn't add up when you take into account the actual game situations and field position.

What I'm saying is, it's certainly silly to say that JJ looked better with the offense simply because they had more yards. Any good football coach will tell you there's more to it than that.
Posted by wilceaux
Austin, TX
Member since Apr 2004
12995 posts
Posted on 10/12/10 at 4:42 pm to
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You're right, there haven't been overly glowing reviews written about Jarrett Lee since the Tennessee game. None at all.


exposed
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
296051 posts
Posted on 10/12/10 at 4:43 pm to
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You're right, there haven't been overly glowing reviews written about Jarrett Lee since the Tennessee game. None at all.


Ahhh...now we get to the root of the issue. Player hater.

People are thrilled that the offense appears confident and alive under Lee. I would also say your assessment of the other guy is just a overvalued. But it doesn't bother me to see JJ succeed as well.

Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
85754 posts
Posted on 10/12/10 at 4:44 pm to
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JJ is riding JL's coat tail on this one no matter how you look at it.I dont have any problem with jj starting ,playing or whatever but give credit where credit is due


Then it should go to our head coach. we need both qbs playing to be successful on offense this year.
Posted by Nastycuts22
Tampa, FL
Member since Jan 2010
154 posts
Posted on 10/12/10 at 4:45 pm to
Fact is . JL is more effective at QB . He opens up PA passes , they cant key on Ridley , oh not to mention he gets the ball to the receivers . JJ could barely hit a receiver in the first 5 games . Try to be a little realistic , JL is a better QB at this moment .
Posted by TigerWilson88
West Monroe
Member since Jul 2008
1948 posts
Posted on 10/12/10 at 4:45 pm to
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How many drives did lee start ? 5 ? and produced 4td drives . How many drives did JJ start ? 7-8 ? O td drives . common sense
Posted by OBUDan
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
40723 posts
Posted on 10/12/10 at 4:47 pm to
Holy frick Books you're dumber than I thought.
Posted by jdrumdog
baton rouge, la
Member since Jan 2010
7655 posts
Posted on 10/12/10 at 4:47 pm to
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this thread is stupid. Can spin it however you want but the offense is a LOT better w/ Lee than Jordan, and it's not close.


Better question: with the game on the line, who do you put in, Lee or JJ?

The answer is obvious. However, if you go merely by one game's statistics, apparently you put in....JJ? It just doesn't add up.

And the argument "well I'm just saying I'd like to see more from Lee," "not dogging JL" etc. etc. seems a little clouded as well.

I'm not sure what the misconception is, because the offense clearly opens up with Lee in the game. I've been trying to figure out what that misconception is the OP addresses.
Posted by jdrumdog
baton rouge, la
Member since Jan 2010
7655 posts
Posted on 10/12/10 at 4:48 pm to
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Ahhh...now we get to the root of the issue. Player hater.

People are thrilled that the offense appears confident and alive under Lee. I would also say your assessment of the other guy is just a overvalued. But it doesn't bother me to see JJ succeed as well.


This nails it.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
296051 posts
Posted on 10/12/10 at 4:48 pm to
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quote:
You're right, there haven't been overly glowing reviews written about Jarrett Lee since the Tennessee game. None at all.



exposed


Yeah, I figured we would get to the root of the problem.
Posted by Books
BR
Member since Jun 2005
11174 posts
Posted on 10/12/10 at 4:49 pm to
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OBUDan
someone's pussy hurts
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
85754 posts
Posted on 10/12/10 at 4:54 pm to
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Yeah, I think he got rid of it before the hit. The pressure may have forced him to throw it sooner than he liked, but it was a stupid throw.


But wasnt the fanbase screaming for him to get rid of the ball instead of taking the sack? Leading to an int, which is what jl did a shite ton in 08?

Im still not sold on either qb, we are better than uf and they are going through the grwoing pains we went through in 08 and 09 at the qb position. Both of them will continue to see split time.

What i want is for lee to start against mcneese and at least stay in for quite a few series before jj comes in. shite i want to see him start a whole game before i name him our savior. He still had a pass that should have been intercepted by a dlinemen. Nevis would have intercepted that pass. Lee plays well under pressure, but i have yet to see him or JJ play a complete mistake free game.

The problem is we dont know what would have happened if lee started the whole game, or if lee finished the drive against UT. All i know is JJ scored 2 rsuhing tds last game. Without those we lose. Jl moved us down the field and scored late in the game. Without that we lose.

Still a bunch of big ifs, but as long as we keep winning i could care less who starts.

This post was edited on 10/12/10 at 4:59 pm
Posted by Books
BR
Member since Jun 2005
11174 posts
Posted on 10/12/10 at 4:56 pm to
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But wasnt the fanbase screaming for him to get rid of the ball instead of taking the sack. Leading to an int, which is what jl did a shite ton in 08?
yes, when he had time to throw and took the sack instead of throwing it away
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