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re: Brandon Harris will ultimately decide who the starting qb is
Posted on 1/16/15 at 10:17 am to Tiger Ryno
Posted on 1/16/15 at 10:17 am to Tiger Ryno
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You have to know the playbook and protections and everyone else's assignments or it will be a few sparkling plays surrounded by a bunch of botched ones.
Wasn't this exactly LSU's offense this year? Even with the guy who should know the playbook?
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Posted on 1/16/15 at 10:28 am to white_mj
Been reading through all the QB/AJ/BH threads. Haven't seen any thoughts on BH's ability to read the opposing defense and make changes on the fly. Sure seemed like Auburn's defense knew exactly what our O was going to do before the snap. Could this lack of vision be what's keeping him on the bench? If so, can that be overcome with more film study and practice?
Posted on 1/16/15 at 10:31 am to Tiger Ryno
Actually it's this guy.
Posted on 1/16/15 at 10:59 am to Tiger Ryno
WOW. A sound QB post without the absolutes that not even Tom Brady, Peyton Manning, Joe Montana, John Elway, etc will start over Jennings.
People need to get over the 2014 season and realize that the whole thing starts over again.
QB is up for grabs, several OL positions, the entire DL (now that Coach O is here) the entire LB crew (now that Coach Steele is here), and the CB position opposite Tre White.
People need to get over the 2014 season and realize that the whole thing starts over again.
QB is up for grabs, several OL positions, the entire DL (now that Coach O is here) the entire LB crew (now that Coach Steele is here), and the CB position opposite Tre White.
Posted on 1/16/15 at 11:08 am to Mr. Wayne
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If it's close, Les will go with AJ period
Actually, I agree with this. It should not be close at all. If Harris truly puts in the hard work and does what Cam teaches him, he should be head and shoulders over Jennings. I hate to down Jennings like that, but the kid is horrible. Only other time I remember an LSU QB looking that bad, was Jefferson in 2010. Thing about that though, is that Jefferson got better the second half of the season. Jennings just looks like poo every single time he goes out there.
Posted on 1/16/15 at 11:20 am to cattus
quote:Stubbornness implies he knows more than he's showing. That simply is not the case.
Agree but never underestimate Les' stubbornness.
Posted on 1/16/15 at 11:34 am to Datbayoubengal
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Actually, I agree with this. It should not be close at all. If Harris truly puts in the hard work and does what Cam teaches him, he should be head and shoulders over Jennings. I hate to down Jennings like that, but the kid is horrible.
I get the feeling that at least Jennings is playing to the best of his abilities. He's just limited.
I think that Miles will always go with the harder worker if the more talented guy isn't clearly separating himself in practice. I don't have knowledge to go off of, but neither does anyone else and that's what makes the most sense.
I remember Barry Switzer talking about Marcus Dupree, and how everyone knew he was the best player on the team the second he walked on campus. You can't just hand the job to that guy without making him work for it because you lose the ability to coach them. You've already named this guy the best option, so what fear does he have that he'll lose the job.
Instead if you make the guy work for it then he wins the job, he has some fear in him, and knows it can be taken away from him if he doesn't keep up the good work. Fear staves off complacency. If BH got the job right away last year what fear would he have had about losing the job?
Posted on 1/16/15 at 11:54 am to Tiger Ryno
Miles is in control not Harris. Jennings will start the next 2 years no matter what Harris does. I don't buy the " not knowing the playbook" crap. He sure looked like he knew the playbook against New Mexico st. Seven straight possessions leading to scores? Quit sipping the purple drank.
Posted on 1/16/15 at 12:21 pm to Goldrush25
Jennings sure doesn't think there's any competition from his comments last month
Posted on 1/16/15 at 12:23 pm to monsterballads
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Jennings sure doesn't think there's any competition from his comments last month
This is what worries me the most.
Posted on 1/16/15 at 12:25 pm to Tiger Ryno
No disagreement with any of this
Its on Harris to get it together and become the leader EVERYONE thinks he should become
Its on Harris to get it together and become the leader EVERYONE thinks he should become
Posted on 1/16/15 at 12:27 pm to monsterballads
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Jennings sure doesn't think there's any competition from his comments last month
Unless we see MAJOR improvement from Jennings, I really hope he's wrong.
Posted on 1/16/15 at 12:34 pm to monsterballads
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Jennings sure doesn't think there's any competition from his comments last month
Just saying, if I were Harris, that would piss me off to no end. I would stay on the field all winter, spring, and summer to completely humiliate him with how much of a better QB I am that he is.
If he isn't doing exactly that then there's a problem with him.
There's no other way to react to that. I would take it as a personal challenge of my manhood. The OP's title is completely accurate. It's up to him to be a man and take the job. He does that and Miles won't have a choice.
If he thinks his fate is in Miles's or anyone else's hands, and for everyone that thinks it's in Miles's hands, that's a loser/victim mentality.
This post was edited on 1/16/15 at 12:36 pm
Posted on 1/16/15 at 12:42 pm to Goldrush25
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“I’m going to continue to work hard, continue to get better with my craft, continue to uplift the guys around me and go into the competition with the utmost confidence that I’m going to be the starter,” Jennings said.
Trying to find the other comments Jennings made
Posted on 1/16/15 at 12:56 pm to BoCoTiger
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Haven't seen any thoughts on BH's ability to read the opposing defense and make changes on the fly. Sure seemed like Auburn's defense knew exactly what our O was going to do before the snap. Could this lack of vision be what's keeping him on the bench? If so, can that be overcome with more film study and practice?
This is the correct answer. He's known the playbook from day one. The problem was that he's so green he hasn't gotten to the point where he can make that read fast enough nor the check downs when the monsters are trying to kill him. That's all this is about. If he hasn't become a film junky by this point he's a fool and we'll be suffering with Jennings again. But if he has, the job is his for the taking.
He's an exceptionally sharp kid. But he only been playing the game a few years. Starting him on the road at Auburn... what did we really expect to happen?
Posted on 1/16/15 at 1:28 pm to Mr. Wayne
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If it's close, Les will go with AJ period. Harris needs to leave no doubt in order to get the nod
Maybe not...some of CLMs comments in another thread suggest he may be willing to finally make a change. I mean he's openly criticized our passing game and said it was miserable to watch.
Who knows....the light bulb may be dim but its finally come on.
Posted on 1/16/15 at 1:34 pm to BoCoTiger
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Been reading through all the QB/AJ/BH threads. Haven't seen any thoughts on BH's ability to read the opposing defense and make changes on the fly. Sure seemed like Auburn's defense knew exactly what our O was going to do before the snap. Could this lack of vision be what's keeping him on the bench? If so, can that be overcome with more film study and practice?
AJ couldn't read the defense either, whether we are talking about route progressions or changing the play pre-snap. People keep claiming that Harris had a problem with pre-snap read but it didn't appear they asked AJ to worry about that either. The line called the protection and I don't recall AJ ever audible out of a play when the defense dictated. That's probably how the coaches wanted it.
Posted on 1/16/15 at 1:38 pm to Tigahbader
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Maybe not...some of CLMs comments in another thread suggest he may be willing to finally make a change. I mean he's openly criticized our passing game and said it was miserable to watch.
Don't you want Harris to clearly separate himself in practice? If Harris busts his butt and becomes as good as he can be, then Miles won't have a choice but to name him starter. Or is him being a little bit better than AJ good enough for you?
I find it laughable that people think that Miles enjoys having to mull over our QB situation. He wants Harris to be so good that the choice on who to start is clear. Miles wants Harris to dominate. But that's up to Harris to actually do it.
Posted on 1/16/15 at 2:04 pm to Tiger Ryno
Who has reported he doesn't have good work ethic, doesn't put the time in the film room and playbook? Whoever has, doesn't know what they're talking about and must be a Miles pumper. And his mechanics are fine.
Bottom line is, in reality he is better than Jennings in all measurable areas. And can anyone claim that Jennings could complete 8 consecutive touchdown drives against even a JC?
This thing has become so absurd, as whatever thing this kid has done to get in Miles's doghouse, if anything, is no reason to hold him out forever. All I've seen and heard about with him has been described as showing maturity, being a great example on how to handle this ridiculous situation, and continuing to be a great ambassador for LSU.
This is just another Moronic insecure Miles (who can't be wrong) schism that is even worse than the Jordan Jefferson debacle, as Harris is far more talented than was Lee.
Once again, a MAJOR cog in the future of rebuilding for next season.
Bottom line is, in reality he is better than Jennings in all measurable areas. And can anyone claim that Jennings could complete 8 consecutive touchdown drives against even a JC?
This thing has become so absurd, as whatever thing this kid has done to get in Miles's doghouse, if anything, is no reason to hold him out forever. All I've seen and heard about with him has been described as showing maturity, being a great example on how to handle this ridiculous situation, and continuing to be a great ambassador for LSU.
This is just another Moronic insecure Miles (who can't be wrong) schism that is even worse than the Jordan Jefferson debacle, as Harris is far more talented than was Lee.
Once again, a MAJOR cog in the future of rebuilding for next season.
Posted on 1/16/15 at 2:25 pm to evangelfan
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This thing has become so absurd, as whatever thing this kid has done to get in Miles's doghouse, if anything, is no reason to hold him out forever. All I've seen and heard about with him has been described as showing maturity, being a great example on how to handle this ridiculous situation, and continuing to be a great ambassador for LSU.
My thing is, I think it's a very harmful mindset to go about life thinking that someone is keeping you down and there's nothing you can do about it. Only people I know that think like that are losers. It's a self-defeating mindset.
So Miles has him on the bench. Instead of thinking what's wrong with Miles, I would think what do I need to do to improve my chances at starting?
Does he have a "good" work ethic? The hell if I know, I don't even know what you mean by good work ethic. You can work at McDonalds and have a good work ethic. It does not speak to whether or not he has done everything he can to become starting QB at LSU. Maybe he has to work twice as hard as Jennings. Is that fair? Who cares, that's what it takes. He needs to do whatever it takes.
Quite honestly all of you Harris sycophants are more harmful than anyone else.
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