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re: Brady's Recruiting kills us again today
Posted on 2/25/12 at 4:33 pm to tuptiger
Posted on 2/25/12 at 4:33 pm to tuptiger
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Also, outside of dunking, markel brown is an average college guard. We should have taken Galloway over Courtney, but if we had done that, we probably don't get JOBIII
What's JOB have to do with Galloway? Markel Brown is more athletic than anyone on this team. IMO he is better than anything we have. Hickey, galloway, hamilton, brown, and turner would be a real SEC line-up. Then we could have warren,JOB and stringer coming off the bench.
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Posted on 2/25/12 at 4:37 pm to jr33
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IMO he is better than anything we have. Hickey, galloway, hamilton, brown, and turner would be a real SEC line-up. Then we could have warren,JOB and stringer coming off the bench.
How is the PF in this lineup.
Posted on 2/25/12 at 4:38 pm to tuptiger
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We have to win instate recruiting battles. It's the only way our program can be elevated.
It's amazing how out of state recruiting somehow became absolutely fricking impossible to people who love to defend Trent.
Posted on 2/25/12 at 4:41 pm to saintsfan22
If Trent's first class would have been
Storm, Henry & Bass, That would have given us starting SF.
We would be able to have Turner play the 2
Storm, Henry & Bass, That would have given us starting SF.
We would be able to have Turner play the 2
Posted on 2/25/12 at 4:49 pm to ralsu
These guys are athletic, guys who can run and jump. In TJ's era we been out athleted in most games. Much like the 06 team, out quick and out jump everyone. Never and I mean NEVER have two 5'9 guys on the floor at the same time.
Posted on 2/25/12 at 4:51 pm to jr33
Who's needs athletes when you can recruit coaches on the floor like Ludwig, Courtney, and Derenbecker?
This post was edited on 2/25/12 at 4:56 pm
Posted on 2/25/12 at 4:55 pm to tuptiger
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We're missing THAT player. We have a lot of complimentary players. We just don't have a guy right now we can throw the ball to and say, "I need 20 points.
After today's fiasco; I'd be happy to have a player that can NOT turn the ball over 20 times a game.
Posted on 2/25/12 at 9:50 pm to ralsu
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Brady taking Delwan Grahman is stead of Terrence Henry has killed us for 4 years
Sorry, but this is just one more dumb shot at Brady that fails. He actually signed Storm Warren over Terrence Henry. Warren got the better of it today. Over their careers Storm averaged 7.4 PPG and 5.0 rebounds with a 48%FG pct. Henry averaged 7.9 PPG with a 4.5 rebound average while shooting 47%.
please explain what makes you believe Terrence Henry would have had a more positive impact on the LSU program than Storm Warren.
Graham was a top 100 recruit known for his rebounding and defense so in reality Brady did well by recruiting both Warren and Graham. Maybe ahenry just did not want to compete for playing time with Taz, Anthlny Randolph, Chris Johnosn, Storm, Quinton Thornton, etc.
I know Randolph declared for teh draft after the season but at the time of the signings it was not known what he was going to do.
Trent Johnson is responsible for the performance of this team good or bad and has had ample time to correct any recruiting mistakes Brady made. Mybe if he had not "run off" Matt Derenbecker a Aaron Dotson, Jmison Morgan Dennis Harris, Delwan Grahamn and Bo Spencer the program might have had more success.
Posted on 2/25/12 at 10:25 pm to tiger20
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He actually signed Storm Warren over Terrence Henry
If Brady could evaluate talent he could see Henry was a 3 (which is where Ole Miss is playing him) not a 4 and sign both Warren & Henry.
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Graham was a top 100 recruit known for his rebounding and defense so in reality Brady did well by recruiting both Warren and Graham
Which proves this was a mistake What has Graham done since he was kicked off the team
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Maybe ahenry just did not want to compete for playing time with Taz, Anthlny Randolph, Chris Johnosn, Storm, Quinton Thornton, etc.
The only person Henry would have competed with is Taz. Which means he would've had playing time as a Freshman.
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ad ample time to correct any recruiting mistakes Brady made. Mybe if he had not "run off" Matt Derenbecker a Aaron Dotson, Jmison Morgan Dennis Harris, Delwan Grahamn and Bo Spencer the program might have had more success.
Out of this list of players the only one's Trent is missing is Derenbecker & Dotson because of family & personal reason. The other one's has been major bust in College. By the way those 4 where all Brady's bad recruiting.
Next season will be the 1st time all the players will be Johnson recruits
Posted on 2/25/12 at 11:01 pm to tiger20
Graham was horrible. Don't rewrite history.
Courtney is the reason we got Stringer, who, in large part, is why we got JOBIII. Fact. I'm not denying that TJ made a mistake with Galloway. He can play. He would improve this team to a lesser degree than Henry, but Galloway was a mistake.
Brown does not improve this team. We don't need a 6'2 unskilled shooting guard.
Henry would fit on this team perfectly. We need exactly what Henry has, and he's from Rayville. He gives us size on the perimeter, which means Turner could play the 2. He is also an outstanding distributor and an excellent defender. We're not on the bubble with Henry. We're comfortably in the tournament.
Also, I'm waiting to hear who Trent could have signed in his first recruiting class from out of state who's the equivalent of Terrance Henry. With our powerful national appeal, I'm sure we could have gone to Maryland and pulled a 6'9 top 75 nationally ranked player in his second or third recruiting classes.
Will you people get it through your heads? TJ is not Calipari. He's building the program, and I emphasize building the program. We're going to at least play in the NIT this year, and we return every starter next year while adding a top 75 nationally ranked SG.
Talk to me next year if we don't show more progress or lose Jarell Martin.
We'll more than likely be the favorites in the west next year. Just chill out.
Courtney is the reason we got Stringer, who, in large part, is why we got JOBIII. Fact. I'm not denying that TJ made a mistake with Galloway. He can play. He would improve this team to a lesser degree than Henry, but Galloway was a mistake.
Brown does not improve this team. We don't need a 6'2 unskilled shooting guard.
Henry would fit on this team perfectly. We need exactly what Henry has, and he's from Rayville. He gives us size on the perimeter, which means Turner could play the 2. He is also an outstanding distributor and an excellent defender. We're not on the bubble with Henry. We're comfortably in the tournament.
Also, I'm waiting to hear who Trent could have signed in his first recruiting class from out of state who's the equivalent of Terrance Henry. With our powerful national appeal, I'm sure we could have gone to Maryland and pulled a 6'9 top 75 nationally ranked player in his second or third recruiting classes.
Will you people get it through your heads? TJ is not Calipari. He's building the program, and I emphasize building the program. We're going to at least play in the NIT this year, and we return every starter next year while adding a top 75 nationally ranked SG.
Talk to me next year if we don't show more progress or lose Jarell Martin.
We'll more than likely be the favorites in the west next year. Just chill out.
Posted on 2/25/12 at 11:05 pm to tuptiger
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Graham was horrible. Don't rewrite history.
Courtney is the reason we got Stringer, who, in large part, is why we got JOBIII. Fact. I'm not denying that TJ made a mistake with Galloway. He can play. He would improve this team to a lesser degree than Henry, but Galloway was a mistake.
Brown does not improve this team. We don't need a 6'2 unskilled shooting guard.
Henry would fit on this team perfectly. We need exactly what Henry has, and he's from Rayville. He gives us size on the perimeter, which means Turner could play the 2. He is also an outstanding distributor and an excellent defender. We're not on the bubble with Henry. We're comfortably in the tournament.
Also, I'm waiting to hear who Trent could have signed in his first recruiting class from out of state who's the equivalent of Terrance Henry. With our powerful national appeal, I'm sure we could have gone to Maryland and pulled a 6'9 top 75 nationally ranked player in his second or third recruiting classes.
Will you people get it through your heads? TJ is not Calipari. He's building the program, and I emphasize building the program. We're going to at least play in the NIT this year, and we return every starter next year while adding a top 75 nationally ranked SG.
Talk to me next year if we don't show more progress or lose Jarell Martin.
We'll more than likely be the favorites in the west next year. Just chill out.
I agree 100% Thank You
Posted on 2/26/12 at 2:01 pm to ralsu
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Out of this list of players the only one's Trent is missing is Derenbecker & Dotson because of family & personal reason
So when Brady had attrition it was because he ran them off, but you excuse Johnson with some BS reasons. Iknow Dotson said he was leaving to be closer to home because hi smother was ill. He transferred to Utah, not exactly "close" to home. Derenbecker's situation is strange, who knows. Both of those were starters as was Bo Spencer. how many starters transferred under Brady? I will conced Brady didn't do the best job of keeping players who were not in his top 8 rotations but no starters ever transferred.
Terrence Henry is a good player, but again his stats are almost identical to Storm Warren so how can blame Brady for making a bad choice. Points are points regardless of whether they are from the 3 or 4 position.
For the record I belive Brady recruited Henry also, but he chose Ole Miss. It happens, but I guarantee LSU signed about 90% of teh playrs they wanted from Louisiana outside of the New Orleans metropolitan area.
Johnson has had three full recruiting classes and a late spring to correct any real or perceived deficiencies in Brady's recruiting. Trent Johnosn is teh coach and the program is his responsibility and it's time to quit blaming Brady.
Johnson did not have near the hurdles to overcome that Brady did when he inherited a program under NCAA investigation and impending draconian sanctions.
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