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re: biggest reason daniels might start
Posted on 8/13/22 at 8:47 pm to Allthatfades
Posted on 8/13/22 at 8:47 pm to Allthatfades
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But anyone looking at it objectively realizes 9-3 would be a hell of a year.
bingo
8-4 is the floor. toughest games will most likeley be
bama, ole miss and arky. could lose to those 3 and go 9-3. i think we beat TAMU especially if max johnson starts. UF, AU and UT and not in great shape either and are beatable.
Posted on 8/13/22 at 10:02 pm to stephendomalley
We have the best receiver group in the SEC. WE’RE NOT STARTING A DUAL THREAT QB. Live with it.
Posted on 8/13/22 at 10:13 pm to da prophet
Exactly and It’s not cherry picking to state the fact that he’s regressed from average to well below average from his first to 3rd seasons. Most of the time when this happens it’s because the QB has limitations that DCs increasingly exploit the more they see him. We saw this happen in real time with Max Johnson during last season yet people like Altiger simply refuse to learn from that. That isn’t to say that he can’t improve or the light bulb come on but to date there’s nothing that suggests it’s happened especially when you’re hearing we’re still trying to develop his footwork at present.
This post was edited on 8/13/22 at 10:19 pm
Posted on 8/13/22 at 10:21 pm to Madking
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It’s not cherry picking to state the fact that he’s regressed from average to well below average from his first to 3rd seasons
Well it kinda is when he went from having NFL receivers and an experienced OL to that abomination we saw last year in Tempe.
Besides our coaching is worlds better than what he had in the desert.. just look what Denbrock did with Ritter.
Posted on 8/13/22 at 10:34 pm to Honkus
ASU his first season was 8-5
ASU his last season was 8-5
The Oline was bad? They ran for almost 200 yards per game last season. The only area that got worse from 2019-2021 was the QB play.
ASU his last season was 8-5
The Oline was bad? They ran for almost 200 yards per game last season. The only area that got worse from 2019-2021 was the QB play.
This post was edited on 8/13/22 at 10:35 pm
Posted on 8/14/22 at 8:00 am to stephendomalley
The biggest reason he is going to start is because the only competition he has is injured, he fits the offense Kelly & Denbrock want to run and it doesn’t really mean anything as far as how our game will turn out but he actually beat Florida State already in a bowl game three years ago so it’s not like he’s going to be scared, nervous, feel like the moments to big and choke that first game…
Posted on 8/14/22 at 8:06 am to stephendomalley
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safe play is to put in the running qb, play ball control and good defense and special teams, and out talent most of our competition and win the games we are supposed to. we'll also be in the other games and might steal 1 or 2.
The “safe play” is to minimize one of two position groups on the team that are among the Top 5 across college football? The WRs have to be a focal point of the offense to win games and to keep guys other than Boutte here. Period. This is not the Les Miles era of college football. Our starter, whoever it is, HAS to be efficient and effective throwing the football. Period.
Posted on 8/14/22 at 8:18 am to stephendomalley
You cannot play ball control in todays game. You will be soundly defeated in every competitive game.
You have to have a QB who can keep the defense honest. The QB has to be able to convert 3rd downs.
LSU in particular has to be relentless About getting the ball to playmakers in space
You have to have a QB who can keep the defense honest. The QB has to be able to convert 3rd downs.
LSU in particular has to be relentless About getting the ball to playmakers in space
Posted on 8/14/22 at 9:13 am to how333
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This post was edited on 8/15/22 at 7:27 am
Posted on 8/14/22 at 9:14 am to misey94
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Our starter, whoever it is, HAS to be efficient and effective throwing the football. Period.
no fricking shite sherlock
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This post was edited on 8/14/22 at 12:24 pm
Posted on 8/14/22 at 9:22 am to mhc4tigers
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You cannot play ball control in todays game
i do not think you really know what ball control means
some teams have ball controlled passing games. where it gets the ball to players IN SPACE for YAC
it also does not mean you cannot take long shots.
This post was edited on 8/14/22 at 9:35 am
Posted on 8/14/22 at 9:43 am to stephendomalley
This is some serious stupid shite I’m sorry I clicked on this thread
Posted on 8/14/22 at 10:03 am to Sleepy_Tiger
I just don't understand the Daniels cult on this board. You will never win in the SEC with a dual threat QB that can't pass. If he starts, we'll be lucky to win 6 games.
Posted on 8/14/22 at 10:23 am to Madking
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A 10 TD to 10 INT ratio is safe?
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This post was edited on 8/14/22 at 10:26 am
Posted on 8/14/22 at 11:40 am to Honkus
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Besides our coaching is worlds better than what he had in the desert.. just look what Denbrock did with Ritter.
Denbrock and Ritter also had the roster they wanted because they had recruited that way to fit to Ritter talents.
This roster does not fit Daniels talents.
This is a WR heavy roster with our 2 best offense players being reciever.
Posted on 8/14/22 at 11:55 am to Fat Bastard
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i do not think you really know what ball control means
A ball control offense minimizes mistakes by not taking chances, possesses the ball, and has to generate more drives to score points. You aren’t going to win more than 6-9 games playing this way today without a UGA’s defense from last season. We couldn’t even close the deal in 2011 playing that way.
All recent championship teams other than UGA last season were a threat to score from anywhere on the field at any time. Championship offenses dictate the tempo and constantly take shots, both downfield and with plays designed to put athletes in open space. You don’t generate that open space playing ball control.
Posted on 8/14/22 at 12:23 pm to misey94
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constantly take shots
can you read? go back and read my post. i covered this. that DOES NOT mean you cannot control ball with horizontal stretch passes or short throws at times. you think every damn play is a DEEP BOMB?
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You don’t generate that open space playing ball control.
you can absolutely control ball spreading them wide using runs or passes and a run game can absolutely open up space downfield. you have no idea whatyou are talking about man.
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were a threat to score from anywhere on the field at any time
does not mean they cannot control ball and drive. you are arguing it is all one or the other. they are not mutually exclusive. you are trying to redefine words here. but please carry on!
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This post was edited on 8/14/22 at 12:26 pm
Posted on 8/14/22 at 12:41 pm to Fat Bastard
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can you read? go back and read my post. i covered this. that DOES NOT mean you cannot control ball with horizontal stretch passes or short throws at times. you think every damn play is a DEEP BOMB?
Your personal definition of a “ball control offense” has absolutely no relationship to what 99% of people are referring to with that term. Enjoy your smug self-satisfaction inside your little bubble, but you are literally just making shite with your expanded definition. The OP was obvious in his intent with it- a CONSERVATIVE approach, which is the exact opposite of what we need to fit the strengths of this year’s roster.
This post was edited on 8/14/22 at 12:44 pm
Posted on 8/14/22 at 12:51 pm to atltiger6487
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Daniels was 17-2 TD/INT his freshman year and 5-1 his sophomore year. So 22-3 before his junior year.
So he is regressing?
Posted on 8/14/22 at 12:55 pm to misey94
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HITF do you think classic deep shots were even setup for years? with ball control run game.
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