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re: Best qb LSU has faced
Posted on 10/23/15 at 3:33 pm to omegaman66
Posted on 10/23/15 at 3:33 pm to omegaman66
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has the potential to be another of those crazy upsets.
strong statement. You want to talk about the other non-conference teams that Les has lost to in the Regular season while at LSU? I'd especially like to understand who the "other" was, since you stated "another".
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Posted on 10/23/15 at 3:41 pm to RedTigerRulz
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We've inexplicably left receivers/TEs open all season
I think a lot of this has occurred when we were up multiple scores, in the second half, and teams are forced to throw the ball more. We have been up multiple scores in the second half on every team we have faced. However, I know that shouldn't be an excuse.
The truth is that it looks like we are having some difficulty in zone, and in switching from man to zone...especially when Thomas has been involved. I know Arden Key missed an assignment once, but that is somewhat expected. Overall though, I'd rather have these isolated events that to just be a pass defense that is constantly abused. At least we can fix these and hopefully we can do so with the return of Mills.
Posted on 10/23/15 at 3:59 pm to Tigerinthehollow
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Best qb LSU has faced
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has the potential to be another of those crazy upsets.
strong statement. You want to talk about the other non-conference teams that Les has lost to in the Regular season while at LSU? I'd especially like to understand who the "other" was, since you stated "another".
You misunderstand. I think LSU is going to win. Upsets happen and they aren't predicted exactly because they are UPSETS!
I will give you a couple that I remember. Tulane and Miami of Ohio.
Les Miles was not here for either. LSU was the heavy favorite... but lost. All I am saying is that yes LSU is the heavy favorite and yes LSU should win easily. And if we lose it will be one of those games that the heavy favorite loses even though they are the much better team.
Heck look at the Ole Piss Alabama game. It was obvious watching that game that Alabama was a much better team than the black rebel bears are whatever they are today.
LSU is the heavy favorite. This WK team is best at offensively at what our defense appears to be the worst at. We are coming of an epic game against a top 10 team that was tight. That is part of the historic formula for upsets. That is all it fits the formula for an upset.
Again, I am not worried. I think we win. Just saying the formula is there.
Posted on 10/23/15 at 4:09 pm to omegaman66
LSU's record under Les Miles when playing as the favorite is 99-12. That's a Win% of .892, and third among major programs behind Boise St and Ohio St. So no, I am not worried about WKU pulling the upset.
This post was edited on 10/23/15 at 4:10 pm
Posted on 10/23/15 at 4:29 pm to LNCHBOX
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If we're down, everyone else is. What do you base this on? All the major players have had ugly games this year, you can't just hold it against the SEC only. Are you going off the SEC's terrible bowl record last year?
The SEC is down, I don't know why you can't see that. We've been accustom to winning championship after championship yet haven't won one the past two years, I would say that's a justifiable reason to bring down.
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You also tried to legitimize Vandy's competition as well. I'm not making anything up. You're doing your damnedest to make this WKU QB seem legit, and frankly I don't get why
Vandy's defense has been very competitive against 2 top 10 offenses and 4 top 30 defenses. These are facts, not my opinion. I'm not making the WKU seem legit, he is legit, why is that a bad thing? You don't have to think so or respect him as a QB but many experts do.
This post was edited on 10/23/15 at 4:32 pm
Posted on 10/23/15 at 4:31 pm to Tigerinthehollow
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see here's the thing guy. I'm going to assume that you are young. I've seen where you are giving people advice on other forums, things like don't worry about making A's...just network well. See, that's pretty sorry in my book. Appears you are one of those that like to cut corners without putting in the hard work. What's wrong with making all A's, AND networking. Back when I used to do the interviewing for my firm...I was considered a very tough interviewer. I'm one of those that likes to prod...to test the depth of your intelligence...your ability to think on the fly....see I don't mind an unfavorable solution, whether it's right or wrong, if you can back it up with intelligent, solid data. So, yes, I'll refute your theory. The SEC has 9 teams that currently have 2 losses or less, and also has 4 teams with 1 loss or less. In addition, there are 2 other teams that DON'T have a losing record. So that is 11 teams that don't have a losing record in the SEC. Can you support the data for other conferences that contains a resume such as that? Granted, some of our lesser 3 have had some losses, namely Arkansas against Toledo, and Vandy against Western Kentucky....but then one of our three losing record teams has a win over North Carolina...which their only loss on the year was against South Carolina. Also, Tenn made a good showing against Oklahoma, and quite frankly choked that game away. So, while the SEC is top heavy...as you claim, the bottom half of the teams are significantly better than the bottom feeders of other conferences. Case in point, by far the worst team in the SEC went down to the wire against the top team in conference USA...losing 14-12....and let's not forget that beating that A&M put on Arizona State, and Alabama put on Wisconsin. You have the floor. Make your case of which conference is stronger than the SEC.
Goodness man, take a step back and reevaluate.
This post was edited on 10/23/15 at 4:34 pm
Posted on 10/23/15 at 4:31 pm to ReauxlTide222
Thanks for the kind words. It is exciting to see in LSU offense that is not completely anemic.
Posted on 10/23/15 at 4:35 pm to 13SaintTiger
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Vandy's defense has been very competitive against 2 top 10 offenses and 4 top 30 defenses.
They gave up 72 points in 3 games against Georgia, W. Kentucky, and Ole Miss. That's competitive?
Posted on 10/23/15 at 4:36 pm to Purplesx
we arent dbu lol
Posted on 10/23/15 at 4:40 pm to chilge1
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They gave up 72 points in 3 games against Georgia, W. Kentucky, and Ole Miss. That's competitive?
We have given up a ton of points, does that mean our defense isn't competitive?
Posted on 10/23/15 at 4:42 pm to omegaman66
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Just saying the formula is there.
if we played Alabama next week...maybe.
Fact is that Mills is back, and they will be working hard to improve the secondary. This is actually a perfect time to be playing WK.
Secondly, WK defense is absolute shite....and WK offense has only faced one team with SEC type talent, and they are the worst team in the League. WK scored 14 points. Despite what Saint13 says.....the qb may be pretty good, but he doesn't have the supporting cast around him. That's what saint13 doesn't get.
Posted on 10/23/15 at 4:43 pm to 13SaintTiger
Our defense actually hasn't given up a ton of points when you factor is special teams blunders and a Harris fumble returned to inside the 5. Why are you tying so hard to prop tris team up?
Posted on 10/23/15 at 4:43 pm to 13SaintTiger
Vanderbilt's defense is aided by the fact that they don't have the worst special teams unit in the country.
Posted on 10/23/15 at 4:44 pm to 13SaintTiger
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We have given up a ton of points, does that mean our defense isn't competitive?
LSU hasn't given up more than 28 points in a game this year.
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Posted on 10/23/15 at 4:47 pm to 13SaintTiger
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Goodness man, take a step back and reevaluate.
So I'm taking that as your answer to giving me the reason why the SEC isn't the top rated conference in the country...that, and the fact you can't provide the support for your claims of Pac 10 and/or Big 10?
Posted on 10/23/15 at 4:48 pm to LNCHBOX
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Our defense actually hasn't given up a ton of points when you factor is special teams blunders and a Harris fumble returned to inside the 5. Why are you tying so hard to prop tris team up?
Okay so make excuses for us but not Vandy. Pretty objective there. I'm not propping up WKU, for the last time. Just having a discussion.
Posted on 10/23/15 at 4:49 pm to chilge1
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Vanderbilt's defense is aided by the fact that they don't have the worst special teams unit in the country.
See above. Excuses for us, not Vandy. P&G glasses [on] off.
Posted on 10/23/15 at 4:52 pm to Tigerinthehollow
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if we played Alabama next week...maybe.
Fact is that Mills is back, and they will be working hard to improve the secondary. This is actually a perfect time to be playing WK.
Secondly, WK defense is absolute shite....and WK offense has only faced one team with SEC type talent, and they are the worst team in the League. WK scored 14 points. Despite what Saint13 says.....the qb may be pretty good, but he doesn't have the supporting cast around him. That's what saint13 doesn't get.
You truly are an idiot. At least attempt to keep up with the thread.
Posted on 10/23/15 at 4:54 pm to 13SaintTiger
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The SEC is down, I don't know why you can't see that
again, what is your basis for saying another conference is better than the SEC. Words are cheap. Back it up man...numerous posts of yours have been all pointed towards the SEC as not being the best conference...just wanting to know who is, and why? Apparently a conference must win a championship to be good. Apparently Ohio State winning last year made the Big 10 arguable better than the SEC...even though the rest of the teams in the conference were hot garbage.
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Vandy's defense has been very competitive against 2 top 10 offenses and 4 top 30 defenses.
again....critical reasoning skills. Learn them. Ole Miss has a shite offense...they are ranked due to Tenn Martin, Fresno St, and NM State....Georgia can only score against weak teams with losing records. Western Kentucky
Middle Tenn You are doing all that you can to pump up Vandy and WK......it's comical. Again, remember when Syracuse had the #3 ranked defense in the nation against the run? not all rankings are legit.
Posted on 10/23/15 at 4:55 pm to 13SaintTiger
Take out the game against Austin Peay (an FCS team), and Vanderbilt gives up 5.4 yards per snap. That's pretty average. LSU is currently giving up 4.7 yards per snap (aka less than Vandy), and Vandy held WKU to 14 points.
Let me explain how this game will go. Fournette & Co. will gash WKU's porous defense and control the clock, ending the first quarter up 14-0. Doughty will press to make plays in order to try and stay in the game, and will hit on some, but miss on most.
LSU will take a huge lead into halftime and let off the gas on defense while putting a vicegrip on the clock on offense.
Final Score:
LSU - 45
WKU - 17
Let me explain how this game will go. Fournette & Co. will gash WKU's porous defense and control the clock, ending the first quarter up 14-0. Doughty will press to make plays in order to try and stay in the game, and will hit on some, but miss on most.
LSU will take a huge lead into halftime and let off the gas on defense while putting a vicegrip on the clock on offense.
Final Score:
LSU - 45
WKU - 17
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