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re: Best qb LSU has faced
Posted on 10/25/15 at 11:29 am to nvasil1
Posted on 10/25/15 at 11:29 am to nvasil1
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Our secondary has been underwhelming this season to say the least, but we knew that already.
Before the season, would you agree that the consensus was that the secondary was going to be our greatest strength? I'm just pointing out that the pendulum has swung in the opposite direction. We are a great team. Our main weakness is our secondary.That's the only thing that I can see that can cause us to lose a game, unless they fix it. (excluding special teams)
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Doughty threw the ball over 60 times and was still 50+ yards below his average ypg. I wouldn't say he "exposed" anything.
There are other ways to expose a secondary other than ypg. I believe when you are consistently seeing TD passes to receivers that have no one within 10 yards of them, it exposes a secondary. I believe when you see missed tackles and whiffs, it exposes your secondary.
It's not the end of the world. I think the talent's there and I hope it can be fixed. But I've noticed that we get plenty of pressure on the QB, which is different than last year. Our secondary, however, at times has issues covering, and clearly blows coverages that result in TD's.
Is that so wrong for me to point out? Can you give me some other ideas of what is acceptable for me to rant about? TIA.
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Posted on 10/25/15 at 11:29 am to LNCHBOX
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No one else is gonna throw over 60 times. I can guarantee you someone will do better than 5.3 per attempt. And you'd be a pussy and welch on the bet, just like you can't admit you were wrong about the supposed greatness of your boy.
This is about yards and touchdowns, make the bet if you aren't a pussy
Posted on 10/25/15 at 11:30 am to 13SaintTiger
5.3 / attempt is fricking pathetic. Just like you.
This post was edited on 10/25/15 at 11:31 am
Posted on 10/25/15 at 11:31 am to LNCHBOX
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5.3 / attempt is fricking pathetic. Just like you.
so scaredPosted on 10/25/15 at 11:32 am to nvasil1
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I think it's pretty safe to assume no one will be attempting 60 passes on us again either
I wouldn't laugh at that. We still have Chad Kelly and Kyle Allen on the schedule. Those teams are 92nd and 94th, respectively, in rush attempts per game. Meanwhile, LSU is 110th (or 17th depending on your POV) in opponent passes per game.
Posted on 10/25/15 at 11:32 am to 13SaintTiger
Because no one else is throwing 60 times. Unlike you, I'm not retarded. I'll take your bet at 5.3/attempt, but something tells me you're scared.
Posted on 10/25/15 at 11:34 am to LNCHBOX
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Because no one else is throwing 60 times. Unlike you, I'm not retarded. I'll take your bet at 5.3/attempt, but something tells me you're scared.
So do you agree no other QB on our schedule is throwing for more yards and TD's on us?
Posted on 10/25/15 at 11:35 am to 13SaintTiger
This is just getting sad for you. Take it at 5.3/per attempt, since you're so confident that's the best someone can do against us according to you.
Posted on 10/25/15 at 11:37 am to LNCHBOX
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This is just getting sad for you. Take it at 5.3/per attempt, since you're so confident that's the best someone can do against us according to you.
I'm enjoying your crawfish.
Posted on 10/25/15 at 11:38 am to 13SaintTiger
Y'all keep this back and forth going; I almost have my next script written for The Housewives of Baton Rouge.
Posted on 10/25/15 at 11:40 am to 13SaintTiger
Not crawfishing at all. You're apparently actually retarded. Your boy was garbage.
Posted on 10/25/15 at 11:44 am to LNCHBOX
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Not crawfishing at all. You're apparently actually retarded. Your boy was garbage.
Yes you are. The title of the thread is "Best QB LSU has faced". Fact is WKU's QB threw for the most TD's combined with yards on our defense. Do you dispute that? And do you despute that no other QB on our schedule will do that?
This post was edited on 10/25/15 at 11:45 am
Posted on 10/25/15 at 11:46 am to 13SaintTiger
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The title of the thread is "Best QB LSU has faced".
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QB Rating v. LSU
121.18 - Dak Prescott
126.32 - Jeremy Johnson
123.85 - Perry Orth
144.90 - Treon Harris
118.37 - Brandon Doughty
Posted on 10/25/15 at 11:47 am to 13SaintTiger
That must be why there are 4 guys with higher ratings against us. Idiot.
Posted on 10/25/15 at 11:51 am to LNCHBOX
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That must be why there are 4 guys with higher ratings against us. Idiot.
If we want to use your metric, the rb from Tech is better than LF because he rushed for more yards on less carries on WKU, or the rb from IU. Your argument is stupid, just like you.
Posted on 10/25/15 at 11:52 am to Festus
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Before the season, would you agree that the consensus was that the secondary was going to be our greatest strength? I'm just pointing out that the pendulum has swung in the opposite direction. We are a great team. Our main weakness is our secondary.That's the only thing that I can see that can cause us to lose a game, unless they fix it. (excluding special teams)
I agree with all of this. What I meant by knowing it already is on the basis of play so far, not preseason projections.
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There are other ways to expose a secondary other than ypg. I believe when you are consistently seeing TD passes to receivers that have no one within 10 yards of them, it exposes a secondary. I believe when you see missed tackles and whiffs, it exposes your secondary.
Again, we've already seen blown coverages and missed tackles this season. My point is Doughty did nothing remarkable against us, at least not enough for me to think he's the best QB we faced. The QBRs that were posted earlier support that.
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It's not the end of the world. I think the talent's there and I hope it can be fixed. But I've noticed that we get plenty of pressure on the QB, which is different than last year. Our secondary, however, at times has issues covering, and clearly blows coverages that result in TD's
Agreed.
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Is that so wrong for me to point out? Can you give me some other ideas of what is acceptable for me to rant about? TIA
Not sure why you're getting defensive. The only thing I disagreed with was the assertion Doughty did anything to expose the defense.
Posted on 10/25/15 at 11:53 am to 13SaintTiger
Except that we're not using yards per pass attempt.
We're using the NCAA formula for quarterback rating, which includes pass attempts, pass completions, passing yards, passing touchdowns, and interceptions.
If you're unfamiliar with it, here's a resource for you.
LINK
It's pretty user-friendly, but let me know if it gives you trouble.
We're using the NCAA formula for quarterback rating, which includes pass attempts, pass completions, passing yards, passing touchdowns, and interceptions.
If you're unfamiliar with it, here's a resource for you.
LINK
It's pretty user-friendly, but let me know if it gives you trouble.
Posted on 10/25/15 at 11:55 am to nvasil1
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Before the season, would you agree that the consensus was that the secondary was going to be our greatest strength?
The consensus was we were going to be good because we are always good. In reality, losing Jalen Collins a year early, kicking Rashard Robinson off the team, and losing Jalen Mills for the first half of the season has been a pretty big blow to this unit.
There's also been a noticeable adjustment to zone coverage, secondary to those personnel losses.
Posted on 10/25/15 at 11:57 am to chilge1
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Except that we're not using yards per pass attempt.
Your lunchbox buddy is when I proposed a ban bet.
Posted on 10/25/15 at 12:00 pm to 13SaintTiger
The best QB should put up the best numbers against us? Right? I'm sorry you're stupid little brain can't comprehend that attempts matter. Throwing for 330 isn't a big deal when you put the ball in the air over 60 times. Have fun thinking you've won something here. Your guy was average at best, and only accumulated yards because he threw the ball a million times.
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