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re: Basis for changing QB's...What makes sense?
Posted on 9/19/11 at 8:39 am to RobbBobb
Posted on 9/19/11 at 8:39 am to RobbBobb
quote:Fine.
In the interim, why dont you compare JJs 1st three games of 2010 to Lees 1st three games of this yr, and get back with us.
Happy to do so.
LSU gained more yards in Jefferson's first three games last year than it did in Lee's first three games this year.
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Posted on 9/19/11 at 8:40 am to TheDoc
quote:
Why don't you want to compare JJ's first three games of 2010 to JL's first three games of 2011?
Seems like more of a fair basis.
can't do that.
Even though that would be comparing apples to apples, in the end it would frick up his entire stupid argument.
Posted on 9/19/11 at 8:40 am to just me
JJ's stats through his first 3 games of 2010
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Posted on 9/19/11 at 8:41 am to TheDoc
Posted on 9/19/11 at 8:47 am to TIGRLEE
LSU gained more yards in Jefferson's first three games last year than it did in Lee's first three games this year.
Jefferson did it at the beginning of his junior year.
Jefferson did it without the benefit of a QB coach.
Jefferson did it without the benefit of Will Blackwell.
Jefferson did it without the benefit of better playcalling.
Jefferson did it without the benefit of play action pass calls.
Jefferson did it at the beginning of his junior year.
Jefferson did it without the benefit of a QB coach.
Jefferson did it without the benefit of Will Blackwell.
Jefferson did it without the benefit of better playcalling.
Jefferson did it without the benefit of play action pass calls.
Posted on 9/19/11 at 8:48 am to Navytiger74
quote:
JJ also did well against Bama's secondary, which wasn't lights out, but was certainly better than Oregon's or State's.
Which then puzzles me even more that JJ was having such a good game passing the ball, that miles would take JJ out and insert JL on a 3rd and 13 with the game on the line....afterwards saying he thought that "JL gave them the best chance to complete that 3rd down".....there is absolutely no dispute to that. And fwiw, oregon had a VERY fast secondary...there were hardly ever any guys open....and still JL gets close to 200 if they simply catch the balls.
Posted on 9/19/11 at 8:48 am to CantonTiger128
quote:
that same bama defense that les thought would be best to bring in Lee with the game on the line with a 3rd and 13? lol
Jefferson was hurt. The fact that this type of thing can be said, and corrected, dozens of times is what drives this fan base's insanity. Too little appreciation of black and white facts.
As an aside, let's spin this back down. It was a civil discussion a few hours ago. No need for all of the silly snarky comments or sneering emocons.
ETA: Did I mention that Jefferson was hurt during the Bama game. And that we were up when he went out. And that Lee, by definition, didn't "save" the Bama game.
Can we make banners of just that one fact. It's the type of thing that the PR firm strives on.
This post was edited on 9/19/11 at 8:52 am
Posted on 9/19/11 at 8:50 am to just me
quote:
LSU gained more yards in Jefferson's first three games last year than it did in Lee's first three games this year.
Jefferson did it at the beginning of his junior year.
Jefferson did it without the benefit of a QB coach.
Jefferson did it without the benefit of Will Blackwell.
Jefferson did it without the benefit of better playcalling.
Jefferson did it without the benefit of play action pass calls.
UH, the last I checked, what JJ did was lead lsu to the triple digits in passing and the 92nd ranked overall offense in the country (and this was WITH those last three GREAT games by JJ)....imagine how bad the rest of the year was if those great games only got lsu to this....WOW
Posted on 9/19/11 at 8:50 am to TIGRLEE
9/4 @North Carolina
15 21 151 71.4 51 2 1 153.7 10 15 1.5 8 0
10 rushes for 15 yards
9/11 @Vanderbilt
8 20 96 40.0 24 0 1 70.3
13 13 1.0 9 0
13 rushes for 13 yards
9/18 Mississippi State
10 16 97 62.5 21 0 0 113.4 10 40 4.0 16 1
10 rushes for 40 yards
Pretty terrible stats bro
15 21 151 71.4 51 2 1 153.7 10 15 1.5 8 0
10 rushes for 15 yards
9/11 @Vanderbilt
8 20 96 40.0 24 0 1 70.3
13 13 1.0 9 0
13 rushes for 13 yards
9/18 Mississippi State
10 16 97 62.5 21 0 0 113.4 10 40 4.0 16 1
10 rushes for 40 yards
Pretty terrible stats bro
This post was edited on 9/19/11 at 8:52 am
Posted on 9/19/11 at 8:50 am to CantonTiger128
quote:
Which then puzzles me even more that JJ was having such a good game passing the ball, that miles would take JJ out and insert JL on a 3rd and 13 with the game on the line....
JJ was hurt ... he got his bell run on the previous play.
Posted on 9/19/11 at 8:50 am to just me
quote:
LSU gained more yards in Jefferson's first three games last year than it did in Lee's first three games this year.
Jefferson did it at the beginning of his junior year.
Jefferson did it without the benefit of a QB coach.
Jefferson did it without the benefit of Will Blackwell.
Jefferson did it without the benefit of better playcalling.
Jefferson did it without the benefit of play action pass calls.
JJ's failures on the field are not his fault. Lee's success on the field has nothing to do with him.
Your agenda is clear.
This post was edited on 9/19/11 at 8:51 am
Posted on 9/19/11 at 8:52 am to Navytiger74
quote:
Too little appreciation of black
Is this where you are getting at?
JJ was not hurt, that is complete BS. Was he also hurt in the Tenn game and the Florida game?
Posted on 9/19/11 at 8:53 am to MandevilleLSUTiger
quote:
JJ's failures on the field are not his fault. Lee's success on the field has nothing to do with him.
Your agenda is clear.
This
Posted on 9/19/11 at 8:54 am to amiznit
quote:
JJ was hurt ... he got his bell run on the previous play.
BS. This wasn't the only time JL was brought in for obvious long passing downs througout the year. Guess he was hurt the other times as well.
Posted on 9/19/11 at 8:55 am to CantonTiger128
quote:
Is this where you are getting at?
JJ was not hurt, that is complete BS. Was he also hurt in the Tenn game and the Florida game?
Are you fricking serious...on both points.
1. I wasn't implying anything racial. If you inferred anything racial, you need to pull your head out of your arse. My call for civility be damned, don't bring this shite back into it.
2. JJ was hurt. He was pulled from the game because he was hurt.
Nickel's worth of free advice, when facts conflict with whatever it is that you want to believe, disregard the beliefs, not the facts. We're all grown men here.
ETA: And take that goddamn half quote out of your post, or figure out a way to disassociate it from my screen name.
This post was edited on 9/19/11 at 8:57 am
Posted on 9/19/11 at 8:55 am to CantonTiger128
Guess JJ was hurt for Tennessee too?
He went 3-10 for 30 yards and 2 picks
JL had to come in and win the game since JJ was inept
He went 3-10 for 30 yards and 2 picks
JL had to come in and win the game since JJ was inept
Posted on 9/19/11 at 8:55 am to MandevilleLSUTiger
quote:Read the first sentence in my post. You quoted it. You should read it:
JJ's failures on the field are not his fault. Lee's success on the field has nothing to do with him.
Your agenda is clear.
quote:
LSU gained more yards in Jefferson's first three games last year than it did in Lee's first three games this year.
Posted on 9/19/11 at 8:56 am to MandevilleLSUTiger
quote:
JJ's failures on the field are not his fault. Lee's success on the field has nothing to do with him.
Your agenda is clear.
YOU THINK?
Posted on 9/19/11 at 8:56 am to just me
quote:
LSU gained more yards in Jefferson's first three games last year than it did in Lee's first three games this year.
Link?
I've already posted the stats
Posted on 9/19/11 at 8:57 am to CantonTiger128
quote:If you don't know the facts, how can anyone trust your opinion at all.
BS. This wasn't the only time JL was brought in for obvious long passing downs througout the year. Guess he was hurt the other times as well.
Jefferson was hurt against Bama. That's why Lee went in on that play.
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