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re: Baseball Team and Talent
Posted on 3/25/22 at 1:30 pm to DRock88
Posted on 3/25/22 at 1:30 pm to DRock88
I think OBP is a misleading stat when you start talking about guys in the 3-7 spot. 1,2,8, maybe 9 depending on how you view the 9 hole, its extremely important. The important stat for 3-7, to me at least, is slg% and extra base hits.
Posted on 3/25/22 at 1:31 pm to ibleedprplngld
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I'm not saying Dugas is the problem, but to suggest he's looked like his old self so far this season is ridiculous.
Did I mention that I’m glad to be discussing baseball midday instead of doing what I should be doing?
Anyway, I agree with that partially. Johnson hasn’t embraced what he has in Dugas. He has messed with his approach, effed up his confidence....
In one of his many interviews, I heard Johnson after he was specifically asked about Dugas, say something like yeah, “...he’s a good player, he was like 2nd or 3rd in RBI last season in the SEC.” I immediately yelled (to no one in my basement), “He was first a-hole!"
Posted on 3/25/22 at 1:33 pm to ibleedprplngld
In general, your slugging % will always be better when you have studs batting behind you.
Posted on 3/25/22 at 1:35 pm to LSUMANINVA
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Did I mention that I’m glad to be discussing baseball midday instead of doing what I should be doing?
Same
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Anyway, I agree with that partially. Johnson hasn’t embraced what he has in Dugas. He has messed with his approach, effed up his confidence....
I've followed Dugas since he was in at Houma Christian. Coached against him several times. I'm a big fan of his, actually. I kind of agree the Johnson hasn't quite got a feel for the kid yet. His confidence is busted. But you fix that by making him work through it and find his mojo again.
Posted on 3/25/22 at 1:38 pm to ibleedprplngld
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I've followed Dugas since he was in at Houma Christian. Coached against him several times. I'm a big fan of his, actually. I kind of agree the Johnson hasn't quite got a feel for the kid yet. His confidence is busted. But you fix that by making him work through it and find his mojo again.
Apologies for being the first one to bring up Dugas.
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I get what you're saying about him not quite looking like he did at the end of last year yet. I think people got on you just because you mentioned him by name when there are much bigger problems on this team.
Posted on 3/25/22 at 1:40 pm to ibleedprplngld
What is misleading about OBP? It tells you whether or not the guy gets on base or not. If you compare one player's to another's, it tells you which one gets on base more often. It's pretty cut and dry. Dugas gets on base more than anyone else. Is he supposed to swing more to try for more hits and homers so he doesn't walk or get HBP?
Posted on 3/25/22 at 1:40 pm to LSBoosie
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I get what you're saying about him not quite looking like he did at the end of last year yet. I think people got on you just because you mentioned him by name when there are much bigger problems on this team.
No worries! My point in the OP was that he's one of our best players. He just doesn't look like it at the moment.
Posted on 3/25/22 at 1:40 pm to ibleedprplngld
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Same
Happy to waste time with you brother
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I've followed Dugas since he was in at Houma Christian. Coached against him several times. I'm a big fan of his, actually. I kind of agree the Johnson hasn't quite got a feel for the kid yet. His confidence is busted. But you fix that by making him work through it and find his mojo again.
Ok, ok....we’re getting somewhere now. I imagine that the coaches or players don’t read TD, but I feel like what we say here permeates to Twitter, local talk shows, Doug Thompson, etc and I just feel a little defensive about negative shite getting out into the webshpere regarding Dugas since his new coach already screwed him up a bit.
Posted on 3/25/22 at 1:42 pm to DRock88
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What is misleading about OBP?
Misleading in how much impacts the game or the job hitters in that spot need to do to win games.
Posted on 3/25/22 at 1:45 pm to ibleedprplngld
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But C we actually have a solution when Milazzo is healthy
I agree with that.
I also agree the Thompson has been a problem, I just think past balls have been more of a problem.
Are we playing with balls from the past decades/eras of baseball this is causing a problem for our team or are our catcher(s) allowing a lot of passed balls?
Posted on 3/25/22 at 1:46 pm to ibleedprplngld
If it doesn't impact the game, then the guys around him aren't doing their job. It's not the other way around.
Well, Dugas, you took a walk there but you should've hit a bomb bc now we gotta rely on McManus or Milazzo or Merrifield to hit you in.
No, move him in the fricking order.
Well, Dugas, you took a walk there but you should've hit a bomb bc now we gotta rely on McManus or Milazzo or Merrifield to hit you in.
No, move him in the fricking order.
Posted on 3/25/22 at 1:49 pm to DRock88
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move him in the fricking order.
This.
When has Thompson ever proven himself at the plate over Dugas? And don’t say Oklahoma. Dugas did it all last year and has had some very clutch hits this year from the 7 and 8 hole. But for God’s sake, move him up.
Posted on 3/25/22 at 1:50 pm to DRock88
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Well, Dugas, you took a walk there but you should've hit a bomb bc now we gotta rely on McManus or Milazzo or Merrifield to hit you in.
That's exactly why it's not that important of stat. You're 8 and 9 hitters are traditionally your weakest guys. If you walk or get a base hit as the 6-7 guy, the likelihood of you scoring isn't all that great.
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No, move him in the fricking order.
I agree with this wholeheartedly. He should be in the 5 behind Doughty. IMO at least.
Posted on 3/25/22 at 1:53 pm to ibleedprplngld
I’m glad Johnson doesn’t read the majority of rantards on the board, but man, I really wish he would read a few threads, including this one.
Posted on 3/25/22 at 1:54 pm to ibleedprplngld
Got it. So you're judging him based on the impact he's making with the guys that are hitting behind him. Noted. I sure hope that isn't what Jay is thinking. If so, we're fricking screwed.
ETA: I'd bat him 9th and tell him to keep doing what he's doing.
ETA: I'd bat him 9th and tell him to keep doing what he's doing.
This post was edited on 3/25/22 at 1:56 pm
Posted on 3/25/22 at 2:00 pm to DRock88
I think you either move him up to 5th or so or drop him all the way to 9th. Batting Dugas 7th isn't maximizing his productivity.
Posted on 3/25/22 at 2:03 pm to DRock88
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Got it. So you're judging him based on the impact he's making with the guys that are hitting behind him. Noted. I sure hope that isn't what Jay is thinking. If so, we're fricking screwed.
I'm judging the impact OBP for the 6-8 hole hitter has on the game. Not knocking Dugas for getting on base.
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ETA: I'd bat him 9th and tell him to keep doing what he's doing.
Not a bad idea either.
Posted on 3/25/22 at 2:05 pm to LSBoosie
Absolutely. He's getting on base. They (hitters around him or the staff) need to figure it out. Saying he looks like shite is naive. As I said, he strikes out alot (always has) and his power numbers are down - I still don't think he looks any shittier - he just looks different, and he's as clutch as ever.
Posted on 3/25/22 at 2:05 pm to LSBoosie
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I think you either move him up to 5th or so or drop him all the way to 9th. Batting Dugas 7th isn't maximizing his productivity.
Agree. The 9th option is not a bad idea either.
I’m ready for the game to start.
Posted on 3/25/22 at 2:07 pm to DRock88
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Saying he looks like shite is naive.
As I said in another post (and have since edited the OP), the message I was trying to get across with that is Dugas is one of our best players and hasn't looked like himself. By no means was I, or will I ever, advocate for JJ to remove him from the lineup.
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