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re: ATTENTION ALL TIGER FANS!!!!! LSU Will Suffer...
Posted on 10/13/09 at 8:07 pm to bmy
Posted on 10/13/09 at 8:07 pm to bmy
quote:
2001: BYU went 12-2. They scored an amazing 608 points (46.8/game). Luke Staley was the leading rusher in the nation. However they got killed in their last two games. Everybody loved Crowton as head coach. What a great season! But it was a terrible watching them get killed by Hawaii and Louisville. Coincidentally, Luke Staley was injured in the two games BYU lost.
2002: Their record was 5-7. BYU’s first losing season in 30 years. They scored 272 points (22.7/game).
2003: BYU went 4-8. They scored 196 points (16.3/game). They didn’t score a point in the game versus Utah, the first time they went scoreless in a game in my lifetime.
2004: BYU went 5-6. They 267 points (24.3/game).
BYU went from scoring 608 points in 2001 to a low of 196 points in 2003! This was against average teams in the Mountain West Conference. He was the head coach and offensive coordinator at BYU.
Yeah, Crowton is impressive /sarcasm
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Posted on 10/13/09 at 8:09 pm to PistolaVeloce
quote:
Yeah, Crowton is impressive /sarcasm
If you don't think that #9 in the NCAA and #1 in the conference is impressive, then you are delusional.
This post was edited on 10/13/09 at 8:10 pm
Posted on 10/13/09 at 8:10 pm to geauxtigers3
quote:
bmy
Not only did the yardage decline in spite of going up in ranking, but they also fumbled alot in the 2nd year, the offense looked confused, he wasnt playing to their talents, he wasnt making adjustments. And above all, their record was 7-6. So yessir, i agree with you. The offense degressed.
GeauxTiger, if you think they were happy about ANY of this, youre delusional.
Posted on 10/13/09 at 8:13 pm to magicman0001
quote:
Not only did the yardage decline in spite of going up in ranking, but they also fumbled alot in the 2nd year, the offense looked confused, he wasnt playing to their talents, he wasnt making adjustments. And above all, their record was 7-6. So yessir, i agree with you. The offense degressed.
GeauxTiger, if you think they were happy about ANY of this, youre delusional.
Compare Oregon's D to Oregon's O during the time Crowton was there:
OFFENSE
2005 -- #18
2006 -- #9 -- #1 in Pac 10, even better than 2006 USC
DEFENSE
2005 -- #44
2006 -- #42
And you think the OC was the problem? Get real.
Posted on 10/13/09 at 8:14 pm to geauxtigers3
geauxtigers3 == 
Posted on 10/13/09 at 8:17 pm to bmy
How about records?
Oregon
2004: 5-6
2005: 10-1*
2006: 7-6*
2007: 9-3
2008: 10-2
*Guess who was OC?
Even the records at Oregon show this guy's theory to be correct.
Oregon
2004: 5-6
2005: 10-1*
2006: 7-6*
2007: 9-3
2008: 10-2
*Guess who was OC?
Even the records at Oregon show this guy's theory to be correct.
Posted on 10/13/09 at 8:17 pm to lake o tiger
this is amazing.
Posted on 10/13/09 at 8:17 pm to RelocatedPelican
quote:
RelocatedPelican
You don't like reality?
Posted on 10/13/09 at 8:20 pm to The Tiger King
quote:
How about records?
Oregon
2004: 5-6
2005: 10-1*
2006: 7-6*
2007: 9-3
2008: 10-2
*Guess who was OC?
Even the records at Oregon show this guy's theory to be correct.
Again:
Compare Oregon's D to Oregon's O during the time Crowton was there:
OFFENSE
2005 -- #18
2006 -- #9 -- #1 in Pac 10, even better than 2006 USC
DEFENSE
2005 -- #44
2006 -- #42
And you think the OC was the problem? Get real.
Posted on 10/13/09 at 8:24 pm to geauxtigers3
quote:
geauxtigers3
Without a ranking system.. which offense was statistically better? Both offenses were GOOD, we understand this -- it was going the exact same way it is going at LSU (downward).
2007: Great
2008: Good
2009: AWFUL
Posted on 10/13/09 at 8:25 pm to geauxtigers3
How many times do we have to tell you that the "Ranking" is irrelevant? The raw data is more important. What if the ranking goes up but the offense gains less yards rushing, passing, total, and scores less points? What is so good about that?
Edit: So the defense got worse too, and that absolves the offensive decline? If anything, the yards, especially passing, should have went UP with a poorer defense.
Edit2: Oregon Passing Offense
2005 8th ranked: 304.5 ypg
2006 26th ranked: 241.0 ypg
Edit: So the defense got worse too, and that absolves the offensive decline? If anything, the yards, especially passing, should have went UP with a poorer defense.
Edit2: Oregon Passing Offense
2005 8th ranked: 304.5 ypg
2006 26th ranked: 241.0 ypg
This post was edited on 10/13/09 at 8:38 pm
Posted on 10/13/09 at 8:26 pm to bmy
ty bmy..and actually the defense was 44 in '05 and 42 in '06..that would mean it was a lil bit better in '06..BUT the offense was fumbling, confused, not playing to their talents, etc. thus causing them to lose 5 more games.
This post was edited on 10/13/09 at 8:29 pm
Posted on 10/13/09 at 8:31 pm to bmy
quote:
Without a ranking system.. which offense was statistically better? Both offenses were GOOD, we understand this -- it was going the exact same way it is going at LSU (downward).
2007: Great
2008: Good
2009: AWFUL
Yes, Crowton's offense is getting worse and worse since he has been at LSU. 2007 we had Flynn. Since then we've had Lee and JJ. I think JJ could be pretty good, but he's not stepping up so far. I want to see Lee get a 2nd chance.
I'm not saying that we should keep Crowton around. I'm just saying to say that he didn't do well at Oregon is not true.
This post was edited on 10/13/09 at 8:33 pm
Posted on 10/13/09 at 8:31 pm to geauxtigers3
quote:The reality is you're a dumbass. Is this you IRL?
You don't like reality?
"Crowton's offenses never declined in any way!"
Posted on 10/13/09 at 8:32 pm to RelocatedPelican
quote:
RelocatedPelican
This post was edited on 10/13/09 at 8:33 pm
Posted on 10/13/09 at 8:41 pm to magicman0001
quote:
...actually the defense was 44 in '05 and 42 in '06..that would mean it was a lil bit better in '06...
You're right. The Total Defense rank for Orgeon got better, but the Scoring Defense, which is more important, got worse in ranks AND points.
Oregon Scoring Defense
2005 38th ranked 23.2 ppg allowed
2006 89th ranked 26.5 ppg allowed
Posted on 10/13/09 at 8:49 pm to The Tiger King
I see Tiger. 
Posted on 10/13/09 at 8:58 pm to magicman0001
quote:
BUT the offense was fumbling, confused, not playing to their talents, etc. thus causing them to lose 5 more games.
According to this:
After [Dennis Dixon was] benched in favor of Brady Leaf [Ryan Leaf's young brother], Oregon went on to lose three of their four final games [of 2006]
LINK
However, according to another wikipedia page, it said Oregon lost all 4 of it's last games that year.
Regardless, I can see how Oregon fans would be pissed about Dixon getting benched in favor of Ryan Leaf's little brother, especially when they started playing like crap with Leaf in instead of Dixon. I wonder what all that was about.
Could have something to do with the 14 INTs Dixon threw that season in 322 attempts (1 for every 23 passes). Compare to Leaf that season: 4 INTs in 155 attempts (1 for every 39 passes).
This post was edited on 10/13/09 at 9:00 pm
Posted on 10/13/09 at 9:02 pm to geauxtigers3
quote:
Could have something to do with the 14 INTs Dixon threw that season in 322 attempts (1 for every 23 passes). Compare to Leaf that season: 4 INTs in 155 attempts (1 for every 39 passes).
maybe so, and if that IS the case. i guess it further proves his inability to help QBs preogress.
Posted on 10/13/09 at 9:04 pm to Gummy Bears
I've never seen a bigger bunch a vagina's on one message board. Has anyone looked at what our offense did in 2002 under Jimbo? Do you walk through your life completely failing to look in the rear view mirror at where you've screwed up, and never get better? Is it possible our o-line simply has the weaknesses that we thout it would, and that our 19 year old QB is, well, 19? Calm down!
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