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re: At what point is it OK to lay blame at the feet of the players?
Posted on 6/15/15 at 11:54 am to GeauxxxTigers23
Posted on 6/15/15 at 11:54 am to GeauxxxTigers23
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That's the exact opposite of what happened yesterday.
I just wanted to get on my soapbox for a second and include that as a general observation of fans.
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Posted on 6/15/15 at 11:55 am to Weekend Warrior79
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yet, you expect players in college to play perfect 100% of the time and not have a lapse in judgment.
Don't put words in my mouth. I never said this, nor do I think this.
Posted on 6/15/15 at 12:01 pm to HoustonTiger2008
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That's kids HoustonTiger2008.
They should be able to keep their heads in the game. Thinking otherwise is absolutely pathetic.
No, what it is is reasonable. The pathetic part comes with expecting such perfection from a bunch of kids when you know damn well, or should be cognizant of the fact that everyone loses focus and has off days, and has to overcome gremlins in their head from time to time. It's just a part of life. We're dealing with humans, not machines.
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Posted on 6/15/15 at 12:01 pm to HoustonTiger2008
Yep, grown kids playing a game that old men can't play, just talk about...
Momentum changed after the 3rd inning...2 errors on sure outs put a stinger between the ears of every player on LSU'S team...when you start thinking of what needs to be done, and not just playing naturally, that's when the mistakes come...
Also errors or like hitting, they can become contagious as was evident yesterday...
Momentum changed after the 3rd inning...2 errors on sure outs put a stinger between the ears of every player on LSU'S team...when you start thinking of what needs to be done, and not just playing naturally, that's when the mistakes come...
Also errors or like hitting, they can become contagious as was evident yesterday...
Posted on 6/15/15 at 12:04 pm to monsterballads
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PM is a paid professional. The amateur players are not
He is paid to put LSU in position to be competitive in the SEC and nationally. He has done that this yr. and in most yrs. he has been a HC.
At that point, it becomes player driven. They either make the needed plays or they don't. 10-3 would lead most rational folks to the conclusion that the needed plays between the lines were not made.
Hopefully, they will in the next game.
Posted on 6/15/15 at 12:06 pm to Lonnie4LSU
Would you not agree that it's a theme that Mainieri's teams do not perform well on the big stage?
Posted on 6/15/15 at 12:39 pm to TigerRagAndrew
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CPM isn't out there fielding grounders.
True. The coaches aren't responsible and they can't affect the outcome of the games.
That's why they get paid seven figures and some coaches' players just always seem to perform better than other coaches' players. It's because the coaches aren't responsible for how the players play. That's why.
Posted on 6/15/15 at 12:56 pm to Lonnie4LSU
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They either make the needed plays or they don't.
correct and it's HIS JOB to manage them by putting them in positions to be successful.
you think poche is going to pull himself off the mound?
no, of course not.
Posted on 6/15/15 at 1:02 pm to GeauxxxTigers23
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Would you not agree that it's a theme that Mainieri's teams do not perform well on the big stage?
33-13 postseason is not exactly chopped liver when it comes to college baseball.
If you only want to talk CWS, certainly 6 wins and 6 loses to this point in time in 4 trips don't seem to equate to "it's a theme that Mainieri's teams do not perform well on the big stage". imo
Was the loss yesterday and going 0-2 the time before a disappointment? Sure. Let's not forget that the time before that LSU was the best college baseball had to offer on that "big stage".
Posted on 6/15/15 at 5:06 pm to LSUFanHouston
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Every game an LSU team loses, is the coach's fault. In every sport
Very true.
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No one has more talent than Louisiana in all sports.
It looks like the TCU CF was the best outfielder at the game last night. A big arm in CF helped snuff out our momentum at the beginning of the game. Nobody, maybe Foster if he's in the OF, makes a throw like that for us.
Posted on 6/15/15 at 5:52 pm to TigerRagAndrew
Paul can show enough confidence in his hitters to not use the bottom of his bullpen. What are the players supposed to think, down 5 runs and freaking Devall is on the mound? I'll answer this. That Paul doesn't believe that we're good enough to come back from a 5 run deficit. He quit on them, no wonder they tucked their tails between their legs.
Posted on 6/15/15 at 6:06 pm to Carville
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That Paul doesn't believe that we're good enough to come back from a 5 run deficit. He quit on them, no wonder they tucked their tails between their legs.
Except they scored more runs after he did that.
Posted on 6/15/15 at 7:21 pm to KingofthePoint
So you saw fire in them?
Posted on 6/15/15 at 8:20 pm to TigerRagAndrew
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The starting pitcher made the same error on 2 consecutive routine plays and then let it get to his head. Game was essentially lost at that poin
no it wasn't. the game was lost when poche' continued to walk and hit batters and then hale screwed up at third (again).
of course, we gave them 5 runs but lost by 7 so I guess you can say tcu finished us off with their bats. game probably should have ended up 5-3 tcu.
so our PITCHING, or HITTING (lack thereof) and our ERRORS cost us this game.
Posted on 6/15/15 at 8:42 pm to LSUFanHouston
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PM didn't get the hook out earlier because PM doesn't have enough faith in our bullpen to go 4 plus innings. A stuggling Poche > our bullpen in PM's eyes. That's why Poche stayed in as long as he did
AND, I would add Poche' has pitched out of jams many times before. a good SP has to pitch out of jams pretty routinely. he just didn't this time; he really was rattled.
Posted on 6/15/15 at 8:48 pm to Carville
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Paul can show enough confidence in his hitters to not use the bottom of his bullpen. What are the players supposed to think, down 5 runs and freaking Devall is on the mound?
at that point in the game, I don't blame him one bit. why burn your top guys when you're gonna need 'em to get out of the losers bracket.
yea, I didn't show any confidence in our hitters coming back from being down 5 either.
Posted on 6/15/15 at 8:54 pm to GeauxxxTigers23
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Buck stops at the top. Mainieri gets payed a million dollars a year to take the blame for not having his team prepared for the biggest stage in college baseball.
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