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re: Are we incapable of admitting that process matters?

Posted on 11/30/10 at 8:52 am to
Posted by Mindenfan
Minden
Member since Sep 2006
4823 posts
Posted on 11/30/10 at 8:52 am to
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Only folks who don't happen to notice that the 20% of your losses consistently come from the same teams in the SEC
Oh Lord!
This post was edited on 11/30/10 at 11:46 am
Posted by OBUDan
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
40723 posts
Posted on 11/30/10 at 11:26 am to
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Back to Saban, who screamed at players repeatedly on the sideline as the Crimson Tide lost their 24-0 lead, and the game, to Auburn. Screaming is a sure sign of poor coaching. Saban screamed at the punter after a shanked punt. Did he think the punter intended to shank the ball?

Win as a team, lose as a team. Alabama coaches had a terrible game, so if screaming is good, shouldn't someone scream at Saban? Twice before the fourth quarter, Alabama coaches called a middle screen on third-and-long. Just before the fateful shanked punt, Alabama had third-and-12 on the Auburn 36 with six minutes remaining. "This better not be another middle screen," yours truly said. It was, Auburn was expecting this action and had the middle screen defended, sack. If screaming is good, why didn't someone grab Saban and scream at him in front of the cameras about that call? Auburn punting with 51 seconds remaining, Alabama out of timeouts and its starting quarterback injured, the Crimson Tide made no attempt to rush the punter, sending just one man. The result was Alabama ball on its 19. If screaming is good, someone should have grabbed Saban and screamed at him about that call.

In the third quarter, Alabama had only 10 men out on defense. One second before the Auburn snap, Saban pushed an 11th player onto the field. Though the 10 men stopped the Auburn play, Saban's action drew a flag for substitution infraction. This Saban blunder helped Auburn get a first down on what became a touchdown drive. All players who participate in a down must be "inside the numbers" at some point before the snap. This rule prevents the offense from sneaking a wide receiver onto the edge of the field unnoticed just before the play begins, but also prevents coaches from sending an 11th man in on defense one second before the play begins. Saban either didn't know the rule or wasn't paying attention. Why didn't someone grab Saban and scream at him?


Check out Saban's brilliant process.
Posted by Tigerloo
Member since Sep 2007
397 posts
Posted on 11/30/10 at 11:28 pm to
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that didn't determine the outcome of the game. Try and be logical here.


Sorry, I didn't know that had an impact on how the ball bounces.

Posted by Tigahs
Member since Jan 2004
22836 posts
Posted on 11/30/10 at 11:30 pm to
Completely agree
Posted by Tigerloo
Member since Sep 2007
397 posts
Posted on 12/1/10 at 12:09 am to
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As established, it also means LSU was in a position to lose also. The UT game was exactly this: a total botch job that was rescued by luck. Pure and simple. Very few (if any) other elite coaches allow that much clock to burn in a situation like that. Les should have had plenty of time to run his Ridley play without the drama.


How many turnovers did the coach have to put the team in position to lose?
Posted by Lonnie4LSU
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2008
9525 posts
Posted on 12/1/10 at 12:49 am to
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Losing consistently to those same teams makes your school second-tier, not elite


May I have some of whatever you are smoking???

In the past 6 years LSU has a winning or .5oo record vs every team in the SEC but for Georgia.

4-2 vs Bama and 3-3 vs Florida and 4-2 vs Auburn

So, using your statement, I guess Bama and Auburn are 2nd-tier to us....right?

Posted by TigerBandAlumnus82
Pensacola,FL
Member since Jul 2007
3104 posts
Posted on 12/1/10 at 3:09 pm to
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Just couldn't wait to pull the "Tennessee game" card could you?


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would you call it luck that against FL in the Swamp, that our holder tosses an irregular shaped ball on a fake field goal that just so happens to bounce straight up into the kickers stomach.....Good coaching? Or luck?

Tennessee game = LUCKY UT coaching math problem or we lose.
Florida game = LUCKY bounce at the end or we lose.
North Carolina Junior Varsity game = LUCKY two dropped passes in endzone at the end or we lose.

All the other examples of pure "Luck" have been well documented. No need to discuss further. People with clear vision know exactly where this program is and what needs to be done to bring back Championships.........
Posted by Bel Air Tiger
Los Angeles
Member since Mar 2007
2458 posts
Posted on 12/1/10 at 3:37 pm to
HELLO -good coaches do what they feel appropriate for the talent they have and overloading their talent could bring disasters....as we have seen in the past.

Could that be a reason for the play selection....da
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