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Saban has built every program he coached. Won national titles with 2 schools that he took over when the programs were down.

Do you think Miles would have done what Saban did? If so is there any history that proves your point.

Miles has a great record but he benefited from what Saban built. That is not a shot at Miles its fact. Has Miles improved the facilities since he has been here? All the Saban haters should be thankful for what he did at LSU b/c he left it a powerhouse.

Hopefully we keep winning b/c losing 4 of next 5 is not out of the question. Add 8-4 or 9-4 to Miles record and then your arguement would be weak b/c the last 3 years would be a downward trend.

Is it easier to build or sustain a program?

Exactly, and to be honest with you, I don't think Les would have won a national title without walking in Sabans footsteps here at LSU with what Little Nicky built. Les had 4 seasons at OK. Sate to build a championship team, and had one losing season, and 3 winning seasons.Disclaimer: I'm only comparing coaching to coaching, I personally don't care for the little Napoleon, but he can flat out build college teams.

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Posted by 2ndServe

Member since Feb 2004

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Posted on 10/22/10 at 10:27 am to mikeymike

it takes longer than that to get pimple faced freshman haters off Saban's nuts.

Mad Hatter has the skins,

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Posted by Topwater Trout

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Posted on 10/22/10 at 10:52 am to mikeymike

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Exactly, and to be honest with you, I don't think Les would have won a national title without walking in Sabans footsteps here at LSU with what Little Nicky built. Les had 4 seasons at OK. Sate to build a championship team, and had one losing season, and 3 winning seasons.Disclaimer: I'm only comparing coaching to coaching, I personally don't care for the little Napoleon, but he can flat out build college teams.

He is an arrogant arse but a winner....i wish dallas would take him away from the gumps

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Posted by TX Tiger

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Posted on 10/22/10 at 11:06 am to ksayetiger

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Saban>Les.....
Just a fact.

really? let's keep things equal, so saban at lsu:

2000 Nick Saban 8-4 5-3 Peach Bowl 22
2001 Nick Saban 10-3 6-3 Sugar Bowl 7
2002 Nick Saban 8-5 5-3 Cotton Bowl
2003 Nick Saban 13-1 8-1 Sugar Bowl 1
2004 Nick Saban 9-3 6-2 Capital One Bowl 16

Miles at LSU:

2005 Les Miles 11-2 7-2 Peach Bowl 5
2006 Les Miles 11-2 6-2 Sugar Bowl 3
2007 Les Miles 12-2 6-2 BCS Title Game 1
2008 Les Miles 8-5 3-5 Chik-Fil-La Bowl
2009 Les Miles 9-4 5-3 Capital One Bowl 17

Based on this i'll take miles. plus, how many saban teams were 7-0? And if you want to talk recruiting- well nevermind.