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re: Another LSU QB thread
Posted on 8/24/10 at 8:37 pm to Roaad
Posted on 8/24/10 at 8:37 pm to Roaad
Jefferson seems to be the one that needs to be
Lee has a problem reading defenses but his interceptions were not because he wasn't
How many sacks last year could have been avoided by
Seems like you have the QB's mixed up.
Again, I don't care who starts, BRING HOME A VIC
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THROWING THE frickING BALL AWAY
Lee has a problem reading defenses but his interceptions were not because he wasn't
quote:
THROWING THE frickING BALL AWAY.
How many sacks last year could have been avoided by
quote:
THROWING THE frickING BALL AWAY.
Seems like you have the QB's mixed up.
Again, I don't care who starts, BRING HOME A VIC
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Posted on 8/24/10 at 8:41 pm to JaxTigah
You don't think JJ throws the ball away as opposed to forcing passes into coverage?
I'd rather sacks to INT's.
I'd rather sacks to INT's.
Posted on 8/24/10 at 8:42 pm to BT
JL cannot play in the game. He throws too many interceptions. Cannot afford that
Posted on 8/24/10 at 8:44 pm to Abe
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JL cannot play in the game. He throws too many interceptions. Cannot afford that
thanks for the input sausage king.
This post was edited on 8/24/10 at 8:45 pm
Posted on 8/24/10 at 8:45 pm to BT
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Some of you hate it I know, but sounds to me like we have a qb postion battle.
When was there not a battle?
quote:
It would be nice if either JJ or JL would simply take the reigns by their play on the field and or locker room.
I'm sure one has taken the reigns, it's just not who you favor. The coaches know who needs to start to best execute the O.
JL has had his chances to redeem himself and struggled. With his character, he will keep trying and he'll get another chance.
Posted on 8/24/10 at 8:46 pm to Roaad
Most of Lee's interceptions were to the first reads, It was not because he held the ball too long. Sacks are most definitely from holding the ball too long and not throwing it away. Lee's problem is defenses more than anything else.
Posted on 8/24/10 at 8:47 pm to Mayhawman
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I'm sure one has taken the reigns, it's just not who you favor. The coaches know who needs to start to best execute the O.
clearly.
Posted on 8/24/10 at 8:49 pm to Mayhawman
Forget about JL playing. The only way is if JJ gets hurt. After first pick 6 Shepard will be qb.
Posted on 8/24/10 at 8:50 pm to BT
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clearly.
That has the stench of sarcsm.
Posted on 8/24/10 at 8:50 pm to JaxTigah
quote:I made that point earlier. . .that he has issues with progression reads.
Most of Lee's interceptions were to the first reads,
quote:He holds the ball too long, true. I made that point in the same post mentioned earlier.
Sacks are most definitely from holding the ball too long and not throwing it away.
He also long-strides his drops, which takes him out of the pocket, leaving him open to DE's.
But I would say that 75% of his sacks were resultant from the shittiest OL play I have ever seen from an LSU team (and I remember the Hallman Era well).
The throw the ball away comment was more of a "instead of throwing into double coverage".
Posted on 8/24/10 at 8:50 pm to JaxTigah
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Lee's problem is defenses more than anything else.
fresh starting in the sec, imagine that?
This post was edited on 8/24/10 at 8:57 pm
Posted on 8/24/10 at 8:56 pm to BT
Posted on 8/24/10 at 8:57 pm to Abe
JL playingPosted on 8/24/10 at 8:58 pm to BT
The sad thing my friend is that neither one will ever be a solid performer. Once again-------we are screwed. Lots of talent everywhere but qb. If ZL would have stayed he would have been starting by the third game. At least Nutt knows when he has nothing, bites the bullet and gets a body on campus that at least gives you a chance. We continue to drink the Kool-aid and avoid the issue. So sad.
Posted on 8/24/10 at 8:58 pm to Abe
abe, it's past your bed time buddy.
Posted on 8/24/10 at 9:00 pm to overthehilltiger
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If ZL would have stayed he would have been starting by the third game.
Posted on 8/24/10 at 9:02 pm to Roaad
Again, most of his interceptions were not into double coverage. They were bad reads, or in many cases, tipped balls. Lee can work on some stuff for sure, but the quarterback that needs to work on throwing the ball is away is Jefferson. How different would the offense have been if had thrown 33% of those sacks away?
I think both of these guys can compete in the SEC. This year is the difference maker for whichever one gets the nod. Whoever gets it, BEAT THE shite OUT OF THE HEELS.
I think both of these guys can compete in the SEC. This year is the difference maker for whichever one gets the nod. Whoever gets it, BEAT THE shite OUT OF THE HEELS.
Posted on 8/24/10 at 9:12 pm to JaxTigah
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How different would the offense have been if had thrown 33% of those sacks away?
Don't kid yourself. Some good programs gave up comparable sacks. Maybe 4 or 5 less. Look it up.
They weren't good for the O, but it was far from being the "fix".
Posted on 8/25/10 at 6:56 am to BT
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fresh starting in the sec, imagine that?
So why doesn't that work for Jefferson?
Posted on 8/25/10 at 7:24 am to JaxTigah
quote:Actually they were. Not man double, but generally split zone dual coverage.
Again, most of his interceptions were not into double coverage.
Usually LB's and Safeties.
quote:Well duh.
They were bad reads
quote:tipped because they were thrown poorly into double coverage.
tipped balls
quote:Throwing the ball away is better than taking a sack on some downs. If it's 3rd and med.-long. . .not so much.
but the quarterback that needs to work on throwing the ball is away is Jefferson.
Hell, most of the sacks came before JJ could make any reads at all.
And I have discussed what I believe to be the culprit on many of JJ's sacks. Crowton wants JJ to be a run first QB, but JJ lacks the instincts for it. He is being coached to do something he isn't comfortable doing. That is why he gets confused and hesitates in the pocket.
quote:The ones on 3rd down would be essentially the same. . .for a punter, there isn't much difference between 4th & 5, and 4th & 9
How different would the offense have been if had thrown 33% of those sacks away?
This post was edited on 8/25/10 at 7:27 am
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