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Posted on 8/24/10 at 3:46 pm to Antonio Moss
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I got tired after page 7.
Like we said, no verifiable source.
Posted on 8/24/10 at 3:47 pm to EauxK
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Like we said, no verifiable source.
That wasn't the discussion.
Posted on 8/24/10 at 3:48 pm to Antonio Moss
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Of course, but this came from many different people. So could it be that they're all conspiring with each other and lying, but its more probable that they aren't.
It means they are all repeating the same line someone put out there.
Posted on 8/24/10 at 3:49 pm to Boh
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assuming people want JL to start bc he's white.
I live in Louisiana.
I hear this all the time fwiw.
Posted on 8/24/10 at 3:50 pm to Boh
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Assuming that people want JJ to start bc he's black is almost as stupid as assuming people want JL to start bc he's white.
Don't underestimate Brotha Moss and others. Believe me, it is race. That is one clear fact coming thru their post.
Posted on 8/24/10 at 3:51 pm to Antonio Moss
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Especially considering I'm a honky white boy.
You're as white Eddie Murphy.
Posted on 8/24/10 at 3:58 pm to TheDoc
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Can't we just play the white guy?
See what you did there. Jesus Christ. It's hard to tell if many of the other people on here are serious. What possible justification is there for playing Lee? Really. If JJ loses the starting slot, IT HAS TO BE IN A frickING GAME.
But I'm not worried. I want the best QB to start, and everyone (incl. CLM) knows who that is.
Posted on 8/24/10 at 3:59 pm to Navytiger74
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What possible justification is there for playing Lee?
Well the possible reasoning behind it would be the coaches feel he has taken great strides and gives the offense a better chance to score. That's almost certainly not going to happen, but it's possible.
Posted on 8/24/10 at 4:07 pm to Chicot
quote:What is the difference in this case? Are message boards not news sites?
If I want news, I go to a NEWS site not a freaking message board.
I'd say that TD is a great site for news, once you have been around long enough to know who the reputable sources are. It isn't hard to separate fact from opinion. . .provided you have a modicum of sense.
Hell, just look at the PoliBoard. Its is a veritable index of daily news stories.
quote:Plausible stories from reputable sources.
NEWSFLASH: Not everything that is in print on the internet qualifies as news!
quote:Namecalling. . .ranter fall back.
douche
Posted on 8/24/10 at 4:07 pm to Boh
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Well the possible reasoning behind it would be the coaches feel he has taken great strides and gives the offense a better chance to score. That's almost certainly not going to happen, but it's possible.
And if he shows that in a game, I'm all for the change. But he clearly hasn't pulled away enough in practice for anyone (again, Coaches included) to feel this way.
It's become trite, but I also want the best QB to start. I don't know either of these kids, but I have a good idea that one is better on game day than the other.
Both are free to prove me wrong over the course of the next 14 weeks.
This post was edited on 8/24/10 at 4:08 pm
Posted on 8/24/10 at 4:08 pm to EauxK
quote:Sports2
no verifiable source.
Posted on 8/24/10 at 4:11 pm to BT
quote:Different problems for different QB's.
Reading a defense and knowing where to go with the football has nothing to do with sacks and ints.
JJ's problems are: poor internal clock, piss poor OL, and no running game (also from piss poor OL).
JL's problems are: Bad progression reads, forces ball, inadequate ability to read defenses.
Why would you focus on the same things with both?
Posted on 8/24/10 at 4:13 pm to Roaad
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JJ's problems are:
You can add too deep of a drop/too long of strides and fails to step back into the pocket. And of course is release mechanics.
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JL's problems
You can add consistently throwing off his back foot, locking on a receiver, and the inability to look off a safety.
Posted on 8/24/10 at 4:16 pm to Antonio Moss
quote:I think Crowton recently said those were his fault. . in a round-a-bout way.
You can add too deep of a drop/too long of strides and fails to step back into the pocket.
quote:I almost came when I saw JJ look off the safety vs. Arkansas in 08.
You can add consistently throwing off his back foot, locking on a receiver, and the inability to look off a safety.
Posted on 8/24/10 at 4:16 pm to Roaad
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Different problems for different QB's.
JJ's problems are: poor internal clock, piss poor OL, and no running game (also from piss poor OL).
JL's problems are: Bad progression reads, forces ball, inadequate ability to read defenses.
Why would you focus on the same things with both?
You're reading too much into this.
JJ's primary problems (to his critics): 1)Takes too many sacks. 2)Doesn't have the right "look". 3)Doesn't have it "between the ears".
JL's primary problems (to his critics): 1) Throws it to guys in jerseys that don't resemble ours 2) Doesn't seem very adept at tackling these guys once they head for our endzone.
Posted on 8/24/10 at 4:19 pm to Roaad
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I think Crowton recently said those were his fault. . in a round-a-bout way.
Well, almost all of this shite is Crowton's fault on some level. I could list the problems with Gary Crowton but I'd probably get carpel tunnel.
Posted on 8/24/10 at 4:22 pm to Roaad
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JJ's problems are: poor internal clock, piss poor OL, and no running game (also from piss poor OL).
JL's problems are: Bad progression reads, forces ball, inadequate ability to read defenses.
good lord...
so JJ doesnt have a problem with bad progression reads and inadequate ability to read defenses?
Dude please just shut up.
Its PAINFULLY frickING OBVIOUS for ANYONE than can read that you have a biased pov.
Posting shite like that makes you look like a fool.
Both these guys have majority of the same problems and any differences they have certianly doesnt warrent having them "working on completly diff things" during the same fricking scimmage.
Good luck selling that one roaad.
This post was edited on 8/24/10 at 4:23 pm
Posted on 8/24/10 at 4:24 pm to BT
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so JJ doesnt have a problem with bad progression reads and inadequate ability to read defenses?
Actually, his biggest problem is that he pulls his downfield vision down too quickly. His internal clock is too short.
Posted on 8/24/10 at 4:26 pm to Roaad
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JJ's problems are: poor internal clock, piss poor OL, and no running game (also from piss poor OL).
JL's problems are: Bad progression reads, forces ball, inadequate ability to read defenses.
I can't say that I've seen Jefferson do that great of a job going through a progression (seems rare that he did it). I also disagree that Jefferson doesn't have problems reading a defense.
I don't care how good/bad the OL was... if JJ didn't have problems reading a defense or going through progression, we do not finish ranked so badly in terms of total offense.
Not to say that Lee is any better, but I think it's incorrect to point out those glaring weaknesses for Lee and not for Jefferson. It goes back to coaching, but for now it's still a weakness for JJ IMO. Let's see what he can do this season.
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