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re: Analyzing Lee's Throws (With Screenshots)
Posted on 9/5/11 at 6:56 pm to ZTiger87
Posted on 9/5/11 at 6:56 pm to ZTiger87
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I'm pretty sure he has. I know he definitely practices it.
I don't think "he" practices it as much as running a common drill with all QB's and running backs. The play would've been ran more with JJ, so all QB's run it to give all the backs reps...
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Posted on 9/5/11 at 6:57 pm to Icansee4miles
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Yet, instead of enjoying a convincing beatdown of the highest ranked opponent we've beat in the regular season since, what, 1997?, our "fans" (JJ's e-knights) want to criticize every little flaw in JL's every move. I bet he put the toilet paper on upside down in the locker room and threw his wet towel on the floor instead of hanging it up too.
It isn't about JJ. It is about Lee looking he did in 2008. It is about people trying to see something that isn't there. We didn't move the ball more effectively. We didn't throw the ball better. We didn't sustain multiple drives. We scored 26 points on drives where Lee didn't even complete a pass. We were in Oregon territory all night. Lee didn't have to be a factor, and he really wasn't. I'm sure he can play better, but turning him into the 2nd coming of Rohan Davey is silly.
Posted on 9/5/11 at 6:58 pm to ZTiger87
Posted on 9/5/11 at 7:04 pm to ZTiger87
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It is about Lee looking he did in 2008.
but he didn't...
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but turning him into the 2nd coming of Rohan Davey is silly.
agree
Posted on 9/5/11 at 7:10 pm to ForeLSU
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I don't think "he" practices it as much as running a common drill with all QB's and running backs. The play would've been ran more with JJ, so all QB's run it to give all the backs reps
He does practice it and he has run it in games. He ran the option in 2008 and he ran the read option last year. It definitely doesn't get called as much when he has been in the game, but it has definitely been called when he is in the game.
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but he didn't...
But he did. The bad mechanics are still there. The bad passes are still there. The occasional really good play is there too. I know he didn't throw any INTs, but he didn't have to take any risks. If you saw anything different it wasn't because Lee was that different, it was because circumstances and play calling were.
This post was edited on 9/5/11 at 7:11 pm
Posted on 9/5/11 at 7:19 pm to ZTiger87
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It is about Lee looking he did in 2008.
Posted on 9/5/11 at 7:21 pm to ZTiger87
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He ran the option in 2008 and he ran the read option last year.
sorry, but I don't remember a straight option in 2008...not saying it didn't happen once. IMO, what looked like the read option last year were straight plays from the gun formation.
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But he did. The bad mechanics are still there. The bad passes are still there. The occasional really good play is there too. I know he didn't throw any INTs, but he didn't have to take any risks. If you saw anything different it wasn't because Lee was that different, it was because circumstances and play calling were.
He threw about 3-4 "bad" passes and they weren't really due to mechanics, just bad throws. JJ's incompletions were about 60% bad throws last year. The differences this year vs. 2008, IMO, were more about leadership and composure, although I'd still like to have seen him take off on the sack. And no doubt the playcalling helped, I've said for 2 years that both QB's would benefit from more play action.
Posted on 9/5/11 at 7:25 pm to ForeLSU
fwiw, many QB's throw touch passes without a full step into the throw. Much like the stroke of a b-ball shooter is different when laying one off the glass from 2 feet vs a three pointer
Posted on 9/5/11 at 7:27 pm to Camp Randall
i noticed no pick 6's thats all that matters dont turn it over and we should have a chance to win all our games with the defense we have!! 
Posted on 9/5/11 at 7:38 pm to ForeLSU
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He threw about 3-4 "bad" passes and they weren't really due to mechanics, just bad throws.
He had more than 3-4 bad throws.
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JJ's incompletions were about 60% bad throws last year.
This isn't about JJ.
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The differences this year vs. 2008, IMO, were more about leadership and composure, although I'd still like to have seen him take off on the sack.
What in the world did you see that would you lead you to believe this? Honest question because I still saw him rushing throws and throwing off his back foot.
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I've said for 2 years that both QB's would benefit from more play action.
100% agree. Was my biggest issue with play calling last year.
Posted on 9/5/11 at 7:45 pm to ZTiger87
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throwing off his back foot.
You must have missed the memo ... this was intentional.
Posted on 9/5/11 at 7:47 pm to OBUDan
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My personal stance is to hope for the best and expect the worst (exactly how I would feel with Jefferson in there). I have very little optimism that either of those two will give us anything more than what we've seen of them the past 4 years.
Could not agree more with this. Hope he proves us wrong.
Posted on 9/5/11 at 7:49 pm to ZTiger87
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He had more than 3-4 bad throws.
I don't consider a 15+ yard throw that is basically on target but a few feet short or long to be bad throws. Sure some could have been better. The bad ones I recall are the one to DP, the deep throw to RR, an overthrow and one behind Ford.
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What in the world did you see that would you lead you to believe this?
In 08 when he would screw up he would go to the sideline with his head hung. Many times he would stand away from the team with his helmet on. He looks like he's actually ready to be more of a leader now.
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I still saw him rushing throws and throwing off his back foot.
I'm not claiming that he has become a great QB by any stretch...hell I still hold out hope that Mett will assert himself and take the job. But the "this is the same old suck-arse Lee as in 08" is bullshite with an agenda.
Posted on 9/5/11 at 8:13 pm to OBUDan
The more you post. The more you bash. Why didn't you just begin this whole thing by saying that I don't like JL. But your butt buddies have shown up, like I knew they would. Mindless followers.
Posted on 9/5/11 at 8:16 pm to OBUDan
Posted on 9/5/11 at 8:20 pm to ForeLSU
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In 08 when he would screw up he would go to the sideline with his head hung. Many times he would stand away from the team with his helmet on. He looks like he's actually ready to be more of a leader now.
I can buy this.
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But the "this is the same old suck-arse Lee as in 08" is bullshite with an agenda.
In terms of on field performance, it is. I'm also of the opinion that he wasn't "suck-arse" in 08 or last night. Just that he has never corrected his obvious problems.
This post was edited on 9/5/11 at 8:21 pm
Posted on 9/5/11 at 8:21 pm to ZTiger87
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We were in Oregon territory all night
How'd we do with that in the Arkansas game last year?
Posted on 9/5/11 at 8:25 pm to Icansee4miles
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How'd we do with that in the Arkansas game last year?
Posted on 9/5/11 at 8:32 pm to rickyh
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The more you post. The more you bash.
I've actually been quite optimistic about Lee in the past 3-5 pages, but I wouldn't expect your reading comprehension level to get that.
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Why didn't you just begin this whole thing by saying that I don't like JL
Probably because I do like Jarrett Lee.
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But your butt buddies have shown up, like I knew they would. Mindless followers.
Of the 1 or 2 people in this thread that agree with me, I have little to no knowledge of their post history or experience speaking with them.
Posted on 9/5/11 at 8:37 pm to ZTiger87
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but he didn't..
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But he did.
But he didn't
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