re: All we need is good QB play right?

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How many quarterbacks had more than 678 attempts in their careers at LSU with 100+ attempts in their sophomore, junior, and senior seasons?

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I can think of one that played less than 10 years ago.

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I can think of one that played less than 10 years ago.

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Actually no, you can't

These are the dumbass opinions by southeast that have been proven wrong with FACTS
1. There was a substantial drop off in offense once JJ became the starter.
Wrong. Our offensive yards per play was the highest it ever was all season.
2. JJ padded his stats in November against weak competition.
Wromg. he had 52% of our entire offensive output against #3,Arky. He had 49% of our entire offensive output against #2 Bama
3.JJ wasn't a running threat.
Wrong.JJ is the single season and career qb rushing record holder.
4. Herb Tyler played behind god awful olines.
Wrong. Todd Mcclure,Alan Faneca, and BEN Bordelon were all sec at some point
5.Herb Tyler played on bad teams.
Wrong.Herb Tyler played on 2 back to back top 15 teams in 96&97 and played with some of the best tigers ever at their position(Faneca,Mcclure,Lafluer,Kennison,Faulk,McFarland,
6. JJ sucked
wrong. if JJ sucked then lsu's entire qb history has sucked because JJ is top 6 in every major passing statistic in lsu history while starting just over 2 years.




The responses in this post are not MY OPINIONS. They are facts in the form of stats.

Doubled dowm

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Actually no, you can't

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I can.........

Pretty sure he redshirted his freshman season and only played 3 years then went pro after his junior year

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Now THATS what I am talking about.... Its a shame this thread turned into a pissing match.... This year could be special IF we get good QB play... JJ and LEE are NOT walking through that door....

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It is a shame... shite's gone on for like 8 pages and having to debate someone who doesn't understand basic concepts like run-pass ratio, gap assignment, and passing efficiency caused my to lose my cool and have to take a step back.

I'm wary about Harris. He's on the same level of talent as Perrilloux, Mettenberger, and Russell, but none of those three have been thrust into a starting role this early in their careers. I feel Jennings is the safe choice, but with his having missed time due to his suspension, I fear it will have stunted his development.

There's no reason to expect 2008, 2010, 2012, or 2014 level QB play from our returning QBs.

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Pretty sure he redshirted his freshman season and only played 3 years then went pro after his junior year

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Yeah but you were also pretty sure Herb Tyler played behind a God awful line and that he played on bad team. AND you were pretty sure JJ had substantial amount of playing time in all 4 years he was at lsu.

And facts say HT played behind some of the best olinemen to ever wear purple and gold and played on 2 top 15 teams and JJ started just over 2 years worth of games. So your pretty sure usually means dead wrong.

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1. There was a substantial drop off in offense once JJ became the starter.

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Link to where I said this?

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2. JJ padded his stats in November against weak competition.

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He played the #90 overall defense, the #47 overall defense, Alabama, and Western Kentucky. That's weak competition

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3.JJ wasn't a running threat.

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I said that his feet weren't good enough to effect the way that the defense played against him. He had 400 yards rushing in his best season. Nick Marshall had over 1000 last year and good rushing QB's typically hit 600-700-800 pretty easily.

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4. Herb Tyler played behind god awful olines.

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Ok, again, we've been talking about QB's senior years. Smart people can usually keep up with that but considering that my dog probably has a higher IQ than you, I'll just remind you that I was referring to Herb Tyler's SENIOR YEAR when we went 4-7 and the line was below average as a unit

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5.Herb Tyler played on bad teams

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I was talking about 1998, where we went 4-7. That was a bad team.

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6. JJ sucked

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Our passing offense was ranked at the bottom of the SEC every year that JJ played. He sucked.

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The responses in this post are not MY OPINIONS. They are facts in the form of stats.

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You're not smart enough to understand that you're posting your own interpretation of those "stats", and your interpretation is biased and wrong

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5th in wins 5th in passing tds 6th in compl% 6th in completions 6th in passing yards 1st in career qb rushing 1st in single season qb rushing

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This isn't really saying much.. LSU has never been portrayed as QB U............ Go back and look at overall stats that compare LSU's passing games against some of the other QB U schools and you will see what I mean... Bert Jones was a great QB. But wasn't relied on to pass LSU to victory every game........