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re: All-Time LSU Passing Record - 3,347 Yards - Burrow and His Receivers Will Blow That Up!

Posted on 3/17/19 at 12:19 pm to
Posted by Buckeye Jeaux
Member since May 2018
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Posted on 3/17/19 at 12:19 pm to
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Haskins most certainly will be a first round pick. But Joe better be alot better than his 2018 stats to have a shot at being a first round pick.
If Joe & receivers continue the trajectory of the last 3 games, his stats will be solid. Certainly in the top-10 for passing yards per game. And in the top 2 or 3 for dual threat QB's (combined pass and rush yards)

And we will still "soon see" how talented Burrow is as QB on the national stage. Burrow certainly put up very impressive numbers in the last 3 games (301 yards passing and another 41 yards per game rushing) with a piss-poor passing scheme, and talented but grossly unprepared WR's.

And if LSU had a little luck in the very 'winable' Florida and A&M games, Burrow would certainly have been a Heisman contender in '18.
Posted by Buckeye Jeaux
Member since May 2018
17756 posts
Posted on 3/17/19 at 12:25 pm to
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Hell, any quarterback could do that.
Any QB who can read defenses, then throw with timing and accuracy... sure.
Posted by earl keese
A Thousand Miles from Nowhere
Member since Jan 2014
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Posted on 3/17/19 at 12:34 pm to
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If Joe & receivers continue the trajectory of the last 3 games, his stats will be solid. Certainly in the top-10 for passing yards per game. And in the top 2 or 3 for dual threat QB's (combined pass and rush yards)



Sure, those are all achievable goals. it's not written in stone, but it's certainly possible.

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And we will still "soon see" how talented Burrow is as QB on the national stage.


We saw how "talented" Burrow was as a QB on the national stage last season. maybe he'll have a more productive season this year. He better hope so, you as well, so he can be one of those coveted first round picks.

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Burrow certainly put up very impressive numbers in the last 3 games (301 yards passing and another 41 yards per game rushing)


Those were good games and his stats looked good. But again, it was against the 125th, 98th and 49th ranked passing defenses according to cfbstats.com.

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with a piss-poor passing scheme, and talented but grossly unprepared WR's.



And there it is. Everybody's fault but Joe's. Never fails.

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And if LSU had a little luck in the very 'winable' Florida and A&M games, Burrow would certainly have been a Heisman contender in '18.


No he wouldn't have been. Look at where he was nationally ranked for QB stats. None of those numbers scream "Heisman contender."
Posted by Open Your Eyes
Member since Nov 2012
10275 posts
Posted on 3/17/19 at 12:34 pm to
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If Joe & receivers continue the trajectory of the last 3 games, his stats will be solid. Certainly in the top-10 for passing yards per game. And in the top 2 or 3 for dual threat QB's (combined pass and rush yards)


averaging 301 yards per game passing against 3 teams with an average rank in the bottom half of fbs in pass defense STILL woudnt have landed burrow in the top 10 in yards per game passing. neither would his 66% completion percentage. more bullshite from the biggest bitch on this website.

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And we will still "soon see" how talented Burrow is as QB on the national stage.


at the start of last season.

no wait, after the georgia game.

no wait, after the end of the season.

and who is "we" bitch boy? is that everyone or no?

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And if LSU had a little luck in the very 'winable' Florida and A&M games, Burrow would certainly have been a Heisman contender in '18.


burrow throwing a touchdown pass to florida certainly didnt help lsu's luck in that game.

and a list of heisman candidates i see 9 players listed on there, including dwayne haskins. you know who i dont see? joe burrow. why is that?

All year you have told this board that 1. joe burrow is a better quarterback than Dwayne haskins and 2. Joe burrow is a top 5 quarterback in college football. You've said repeatedly that everyone would see both of these things to be true by the end of year.

It’s now past the end of the year. State your case for each of those things being true.
Posted by Open Your Eyes
Member since Nov 2012
10275 posts
Posted on 3/17/19 at 12:37 pm to
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Any QB who can read defenses, then throw with timing and accuracy... sure.


a quarterback like dwayne haskins that completes 70% of his passes on 500+ attempts while averaging over 9 yards per attempt?

or a quarterback like joe burrow that can only manage to complete 57% of his passes on 150 less attempts while only aveaging 7.6 yards per attempt?

All year you have told this board that 1. joe burrow is a better quarterback than Dwayne haskins and 2. Joe burrow is a top 5 quarterback in college football. You've said repeatedly that everyone would see both of these things to be true by the end of year.

It’s now past the end of the year. State your case for each of those things being true.
Posted by Open Your Eyes
Member since Nov 2012
10275 posts
Posted on 3/17/19 at 12:44 pm to
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And there it is. Everybody's fault but Joe's. Never fails.


the best part is that moron said that the guy responsible for that "piss-poor passing scheme" deserved all credit for joe burrow's development as a quarterback and urban meyer deserved none. after he had been at lsu for 3 months and ohio st for 3 years.

because you know, steve ensminger's track record of developing quarterbacks puts urban meyer's to shame
Posted by Buckeye Jeaux
Member since May 2018
17756 posts
Posted on 3/17/19 at 12:50 pm to
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No he wouldn't have been. Look at where he was nationally ranked for QB stats. None of those numbers scream "Heisman contender."
Do you understand the meaning of the word "contender"? I doubt you do.
Posted by Open Your Eyes
Member since Nov 2012
10275 posts
Posted on 3/17/19 at 12:53 pm to
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Do you understand the meaning of the word "contender"? I doubt you do.


november list of heisman contenders prior to texas a&m loss, burrow nowhere to be found

All year you have told this board that 1. joe burrow is a better quarterback than Dwayne haskins and 2. Joe burrow is a top 5 quarterback in college football. You've said repeatedly that everyone would see both of these things to be true by the end of year.

It’s now past the end of the year. State your case for each of those things being true.
Posted by bencoleman
RIP 7/19
Member since Feb 2009
37887 posts
Posted on 3/17/19 at 1:03 pm to
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you would have been here for more than a year, you'd understand that LSU fans have every right to be highly skeptical of offseason offensive praise



Who is doing the offseason praising right now?

They brought Brady in for a reason. I feel good about the offense this fall.
Posted by Buckeye Jeaux
Member since May 2018
17756 posts
Posted on 3/17/19 at 1:14 pm to
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Those were good games and his stats looked good. But again, it was against the 125th, 98th and 49th ranked passing defenses according to cfbstats.com.

So what? How many of the QB's with fancy stats faced nothing but top-15 passing defenses (real ones - accounting for SOS)?

And that stat is one of the most skewed in the record book. Doesn't take into account strength-of-schedule. NCAA has these powerhouses in the top-10 passing defenses:

Miami
E. Michigan
Central Mich
App st
Bowling Green
Tulsa
Arkansas St

Do you actually believe ^these^ pass D's are tougher than:
Georgia
Bama
Florida
A&M
Miss ST
Auburn
UCF
This post was edited on 3/17/19 at 1:18 pm
Posted by BayouBengals18
Fort Worth
Member since Jan 2009
9843 posts
Posted on 3/17/19 at 1:34 pm to
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And if LSU had a little luck in the very 'winable' Florida and A&M games, Burrow would certainly have been a Heisman contender in '18.


He went an entire month without a TD pass. FOH
Posted by Buckeye Jeaux
Member since May 2018
17756 posts
Posted on 3/17/19 at 1:41 pm to
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He went an entire month without a TD pass. FOH
So? LSU finished #6 in a rebuilding (of the offense) year.
Posted by Open Your Eyes
Member since Nov 2012
10275 posts
Posted on 3/17/19 at 1:55 pm to
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So?


so? you said the day before that month started that burrow was going to star putting up big numbers. he then proceeded to only throw 1 touchdown pass, to a florida defensive back.

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LSU finished #6 in a rebuilding (of the offense) year.


lsu finished #2 in 2011 with jordan jefferson and jarrett lee leading the charge.

jordan jefferson and jarrett lee > joe burrow.

All year you have told this board that 1. joe burrow is a better quarterback than Dwayne haskins and 2. Joe burrow is a top 5 quarterback in college football. You've said repeatedly that everyone would see both of these things to be true by the end of year.

It’s now past the end of the year. State your case for each of those things being true.

Posted by Fat Bastard
2024 NFL pick'em champion
Member since Mar 2009
87403 posts
Posted on 3/17/19 at 1:57 pm to
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All year you have told this board that 1. joe burrow is a better quarterback than Dwayne haskins and 2. Joe burrow is a top 5 quarterback in college football. You've said repeatedly that everyone would see both of these things to be true by the end of year.

It’s now past the end of the year. State your case for each of those things being true.




holy shite he still has not answered this?

Posted by Fat Bastard
2024 NFL pick'em champion
Member since Mar 2009
87403 posts
Posted on 3/17/19 at 1:59 pm to
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So? LSU finished #6 in a rebuilding (of the offense) year.




ahh yes moves goalposts even more from original post

Posted by Fat Bastard
2024 NFL pick'em champion
Member since Mar 2009
87403 posts
Posted on 3/17/19 at 2:02 pm to
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quote: Well who the hell deserves the credit? Gotta give it to Ensminger/Orgeron - In 2015 Burrow redshirted - same QB/OC as 2016 In 2016 The OC/QB coaches were Ed Warrener/Tim Beck (Beck condidered one of Meyer's worst hires - Warriner was an O-line specialist) Minimal playing time In 2017 The OC/QB coaches were Kevin Wilson/Ryan Day (Fought to install a pro-style offense & succeeded - didn't want a dual threat QB/Offense in 2018) Minimal playing time In 2018 The OC/QB coach is Steve Ensminger - Burrow started 5 games under Coach E - SEC Offense player of the week twice. Not saying Burrow came without a great skill set, but Ensminger/Orgeron gave him the big-time college playing time that no one else did.



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quote: Gotta give it to Ensminger/Orgeron - Of course you do. In the other thread you cried constantly about how it's not fair to judge burrow when he's only been at Lsu for 3 months. Now in this thread you are more than happy to give Orgeron/ensminger, neither of whom have ever developed a quarterback of note, the credit for "developing" burrow in 3 months, and giving Meyer, the guy that's pumped out great quarterbacks consistently for going on 2 decades, no credit after working with him for 3 years. And you still don't understand why you are referred to as burrow's scorned lover.



Posted by Buckeye Jeaux
Member since May 2018
17756 posts
Posted on 3/17/19 at 2:05 pm to
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ahh yes moves goalposts even more from original post
Boston College fan? Thought they gave up football decades ago... or was that the other lameass Boston school?
Posted by Open Your Eyes
Member since Nov 2012
10275 posts
Posted on 3/17/19 at 2:10 pm to
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Boston College fan? Thought they gave up football decades ago... or was that the other lameass Boston school?


fun facts:

the boston college and "the other lameass boston school" qbs received 0 heisman votes, just like joe burrow but unlike dwayne haskins.

they were not named davey o'brien semifinalists, just like joe burrow but unlike dwayne haskins.

they also received no postseason accolades, just like joe burrow but unlike dwayne haskins.

they were also not a projected first round picks in the nfl draft, just like joe burrow but unlike dwayne haskins.

All year you have told this board that 1. joe burrow is a better quarterback than Dwayne haskins and 2. Joe burrow is a top 5 quarterback in college football. You've said repeatedly that everyone would see both of these things to be true by the end of year.

It’s now past the end of the year. State your case for each of those things being true.
This post was edited on 3/17/19 at 2:15 pm
Posted by Buckeye Jeaux
Member since May 2018
17756 posts
Posted on 3/17/19 at 2:42 pm to
Really Great having all these "football geniuses" on record as having No Clue how highly talented Joe Burrow is.

All they can see are stats from a rebuilding year. I have these threads bookmarked. Love watching them dig their pit of football ignorance deeper and deeper! LOL!
Posted by Open Your Eyes
Member since Nov 2012
10275 posts
Posted on 3/17/19 at 2:46 pm to
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Really Great having all these "football geniuses" on record as having No Clue how highly talented Joe Burrow is.



national media members.

davey o'brien selection committee members.

vegas oddsmakers.

all clueless.

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All they can see are stats from a rebuilding year.


your entire argument about burrow is now reduced to the last 3 games worth of stats against terrible defenses from that rebuilding year.

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I have these threads bookmarked.


did you bookmark the haskins and trevon grimes threads i linked earlier? why didnt you just go back and bump those?

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Love watching them dig their pit of football ignorance deeper and deeper! LOL!


you think a quarterback going through progressions means he looks at every eligible receiver before deciding which one to throw to. your ignorance knows no bounds, and you are the biggest bitch on this website.

All year you have told this board that 1. joe burrow is a better quarterback than Dwayne haskins and 2. Joe burrow is a top 5 quarterback in college football. You've said repeatedly that everyone would see both of these things to be true by the end of year.

It’s now past the end of the year. State your case for each of those things being true.
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