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re: Alabama's offense more Versatile than LSU offense

Posted on 11/28/11 at 6:47 pm to
Posted by lsufanva
sandston virginia
Member since Aug 2009
13117 posts
Posted on 11/28/11 at 6:47 pm to
While I think the OPs objective point is true in realtion to the Bama offense being more versatile but I fail to see why it matters any. They can be as versatile as they want to but without proper execution it is meaningless. The problem with Bama's offense the 1st game wasn't scheme,it was execution. They couldn't take advantage of the chances they had by scheme because they couldn't execute the play properly. 3 plays in particular stand out.

The Maze pass to Williams. The design of the play and it's purpose worked. They fooled everyone but Eric Reid and Williams failed to execute the catch. If he had cleanly caught the ball at it peak,Reid wouldn't have had a chance to take it from him.

The deep ball to Kenny Bell in the 1st half. Bell was covered well with a S over the top but the S(I think Taylor) was out of position a slight bit that gave Bell an opening. It ended up that cb dove and knocked the ball away(Simon I think) but if McCarron had lead Bell more to the center of the field Bell likely would have outrun Simon to the ball and had a touchdown. Great play by Simon but a better throw would have made it impossible for Simon to get in front of Bell

The pass on the sideline to Richardson in OT. Perfect play call and it worked wonderfully except for the fact that McCarron threw a bad pass to far on the sideline. A good pass and Richardson makes a catch and keeps running and the game is totally different.

As far as our coaches not being able to outcoach the Bama staff, that's ridiculous. They've done it twice in a row and 3 out of 4 times. On Nov 5 the Bama coaches had a better gameplan to start the game. I've gone on record as saying the coverage schemes their defense was running, is the best I've seen on the college level. Our recievers had people all around them and blanketing them all night. The difference in the game was our coaches ability to adjust the gameplan based on the situations in the game which meant the option with Jefferson and Ford,the basically foregoing the pass for the most part and playing field position and defense to win the battle and gain advantages. The Bama staff couldn't adjust to compensate for the changes our team made. It appeared they had the option figured out and bam Ford broke the run in OT showing they didn't truly adjust to it. Football games between evenly matched teams are won because of gameplan adjustments during the game to gain an advantage. Our staff and team have dominated every 2nd half this year on both sides of the ball(aside from the offense in the Bama game;our defense dominated the 2nd half). That is why we won on Nov 5 and why we will win on Jan 9
Posted by bidnes
Richmond, VA
Member since Jul 2011
181 posts
Posted on 11/28/11 at 6:48 pm to
You are clearly a gump. Why lie?
Posted by CrocsWithSocks
Member since Sep 2011
694 posts
Posted on 11/28/11 at 6:49 pm to

quote:

We don't line up in many different formations. We are very predictable, especially when #9 is in.


Posted by tigerswin03
SAINTS / PELICANS FAN
Member since Jan 2009
4715 posts
Posted on 11/28/11 at 6:50 pm to
quote:

the past 2 games have featured more variety and big plays than any game this season.
thats the truth
This post was edited on 11/28/11 at 6:51 pm
Posted by LSU92
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2008
2435 posts
Posted on 11/28/11 at 6:53 pm to
quote:

You are clearly a gump. Why lie?


My thoughts exactly. 20 f ing posts.
Posted by mudbug00
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2007
61 posts
Posted on 11/28/11 at 7:13 pm to
Man! What have you been smoking?

You just have to stop this Miles bashing. I know it's hard, you probably being one that stuck with the "playing with Nick's recruits" thing until even you got tired of it.

Alabama's team is good. Except their psyco head coach, who would make a cup of coffee nerveous.

Perhaps if you went to one of the BAMA boards and spew your love for Alabama, they'd believe and apopreciate you more.
Posted by LSU82BILL
Fort Lauderdale, FL
Member since Sep 2006
10624 posts
Posted on 11/28/11 at 7:13 pm to
Screw versatility. If they meet in the NC game, each team will try to do what it does best.....pound the rock and control the time of possession.

Fact of the matter is LSU did it much better in the first meeting. LSU run defense gives up 72.9 YPG in SEC play and surrendered 96 to Alabama. Alabama run defense gives up 53.9 YPG in SEC play but surrendered 148 to LSU. And I'll take LSU's receivers over Bama's any day.
Posted by dischNoutTAspd
Houston
Member since Nov 2009
909 posts
Posted on 11/28/11 at 7:25 pm to
quote:

Man! What have you been smoking?

You just have to stop this Miles bashing. I know it's hard, you probably being one that stuck with the "playing with Nick's recruits" thing until even you got tired of it.

Alabama's team is good. Except their psyco head coach, who would make a cup of coffee nerveous.

Perhaps if you went to one of the BAMA boards and spew your love for Alabama, they'd believe and apopreciate you more.



dont tell me what to do. I never bashed Miles, and I never said Alabama would win. I never said I even liked alabama. Actually, I am a graduate of LSU and love LSU football, and am rooting for them, just stating LSU's lack of versatility. Douche
Posted by FrenchJoe
H 861
Member since Aug 2006
1036 posts
Posted on 11/28/11 at 7:29 pm to
[quote] You are clearly a gump. Why lie?



Exactly what I think!
Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
Member since Jul 2006
213830 posts
Posted on 11/28/11 at 7:30 pm to
quote:

just stating LSU's lack of versatility.


Let me help you out here. Has JJ thrown the ball all year like he did against Arkie??? This LSU offenses is STILL a work in progress. YES even after 12 games. There is SO much this offense can do that Bama hasn't even seen yet. Bama CAN'T really say this. I THINK Bama gave US everthing they had on Nov 5th. Advantadge LSU. THINK about it. Miles learned more from that game than Saban did. Just sayin.
Posted by lsufanva
sandston virginia
Member since Aug 2009
13117 posts
Posted on 11/28/11 at 7:30 pm to
While I think the OPs objective point is true in realtion to the Bama offense being more versatile but I fail to see why it matters any. They can be as versatile as they want to but without proper execution it is meaningless. The problem with Bama's offense the 1st game wasn't scheme,it was execution. They couldn't take advantage of the chances they had by scheme because they couldn't execute the play properly. 3 plays in particular stand out.

The Maze pass to Williams. The design of the play and it's purpose worked. They fooled everyone but Eric Reid and Williams failed to execute the catch. If he had cleanly caught the ball at it peak,Reid wouldn't have had a chance to take it from him.

The deep ball to Kenny Bell in the 1st half. Bell was covered well with a S over the top but the S(I think Taylor) was out of position a slight bit that gave Bell an opening. It ended up that cb dove and knocked the ball away(Simon I think) but if McCarron had lead Bell more to the center of the field Bell likely would have outrun Simon to the ball and had a touchdown. Great play by Simon but a better throw would have made it impossible for Simon to get in front of Bell

The pass on the sideline to Richardson in OT. Perfect play call and it worked wonderfully except for the fact that McCarron threw a bad pass to far on the sideline. A good pass and Richardson makes a catch and keeps running and the game is totally different.

As far as our coaches not being able to outcoach the Bama staff, that's ridiculous. They've done it twice in a row and 3 out of 4 times. On Nov 5 the Bama coaches had a better gameplan to start the game. I've gone on record as saying the coverage schemes their defense was running, is the best I've seen on the college level. Our recievers had people all around them and blanketing them all night. The difference in the game was our coaches ability to adjust the gameplan based on the situations in the game which meant the option with Jefferson and Ford,the basically foregoing the pass for the most part and playing field position and defense to win the battle and gain advantages. The Bama staff couldn't adjust to compensate for the changes our team made. It appeared they had the option figured out and bam Ford broke the run in OT showing they didn't truly adjust to it. Football games between evenly matched teams are won because of gameplan adjustments during the game to gain an advantage. Our staff and team have dominated every 2nd half this year on both sides of the ball(aside from the offense in the Bama game;our defense dominated the 2nd half). That is why we won on Nov 5 and why we will win on Jan 9
Posted by AGENT225
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2008
676 posts
Posted on 11/28/11 at 7:40 pm to
LSU played more 3 wide and single back sets vs Arky than they have at any point this year. They have added a few new wrinkles to the offense.
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