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re: A Question: Why Vitello

Posted on 5/27/21 at 11:30 pm to
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
68692 posts
Posted on 5/27/21 at 11:30 pm to
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he spends 3 years with PM makes him his protégé?

He spent 4 years with Paul, and followed him to two different jobs. He then left LSU to follow another Paul assistant, Terry Rooney, to UCF. So yeah, I’d say so. And I don’t personally have anything against Godwin fwiw. You’ve just been talking out if both sides of your mouth throughout this thread about multiple different coaches, and I find that funny.
Posted by LSUstephen17
Houston
Member since Aug 2010
13112 posts
Posted on 5/27/21 at 11:35 pm to
He just won the East are you being serious?
Posted by tiger25
Alabama
Member since Nov 2009
2246 posts
Posted on 5/27/21 at 11:37 pm to
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He spent 4 years with Paul, and followed him to two different jobs. He then left LSU to follow another Paul assistant, Terry Rooney, to UCF. So yeah, I’d say so. And I don’t personally have anything against Godwin fwiw. You’ve just been talking out if both sides of your mouth throughout this thread about multiple different coaches, and I find that funny.


He's spent just as much time with Mike Bianco as Paul. But hey you got me
Posted by Dlab2013
Pineville, Luzianna
Member since Jun 2013
9219 posts
Posted on 5/27/21 at 11:41 pm to
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Had an Aggie tell me today he wasn’t sold on TV either.



That’s because he turned them down already per “sources”. Aggie is gonna hire the DBU coach and talk themselves into that it’s a good hire
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
68692 posts
Posted on 5/27/21 at 11:47 pm to
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He's spent just as much time with Mike Bianco as Paul.

Do you think that’s a good thing? (That’s McDonnell’s mentor btw )

Regardless, like I said, you’ve been talking out of both sides of your mouth. You called McDonnell old, yet he’s younger than other guys you do like. You also said he hasn’t won anything yet your top guys haven’t won as much as he has. You called him a clone of Mainieri yet one of your guys learned under Paul. I don’t know, maybe you should have just left all that out and you wouldn’t have sounded like such a moron

This isn’t even about Godwin. It’s about you creating reasons you don’t like McDonnell that aren’t even logical, especially when viewed with your other posts

Not quite as bad as the OP’s take on Vitello but close
This post was edited on 5/27/21 at 11:57 pm
Posted by SaDub225
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2021
870 posts
Posted on 5/27/21 at 11:58 pm to
He’s at Tulane for one. And has them winning more every year and trending in the right direction.
Posted by SaDub225
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2021
870 posts
Posted on 5/28/21 at 12:02 am to
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Says the guy who think McDonnell hasn’t won anything yet wants to hire Vandy‘s pitching coach or Arkansas’ assistant


Not sure what you’re talking about at all with this comment. I have literally said nothing about any of those you just mentioned?
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
68692 posts
Posted on 5/28/21 at 12:03 am to
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He’s at Tulane for one.

David Pierce won at Tulane
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And has them winning more every year


27-31
25-33
32-26
29-23

Zero NCAAT appearances. What a winner
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trending in the right direction.

Looks like he’s treading water. I wouldn’t call that trending in any direction. And it shouldn’t take 5 years to start trending for such an alleged winner
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
68692 posts
Posted on 5/28/21 at 12:06 am to
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Aggie is gonna hire the DBU coach and talk themselves into that it’s a good hire


That would be a good hire for them
Posted by tiger25
Alabama
Member since Nov 2009
2246 posts
Posted on 5/28/21 at 12:15 am to
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You called McDonnell old, yet he’s younger than other guys you do like.


pretty sure vitello and Godwin are both younger but whatever makes you feel better.

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You also said he hasn’t won anything yet your top guys haven’t won as much as he has.


They haven't been a head coach as long as he has so its not comparable.

If you actually read the my post I said that there are better options which I believe is Vitello or Godwin based on the trajectory of their careers.

McDonnell is at the peak of his career and hasn't won anything and won't win anything. It also just so happens that they could miss the tournament this year.

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You called him a clone of Mainieri yet one of your guys learned under Paul.


I don't think coaching 3 or 4 years with him out of a total of 10 years as an assistant makes him a clone but whatever makes you feel better.
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
68692 posts
Posted on 5/28/21 at 12:25 am to
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pretty sure vitello and Godwin are both younger but whatever makes you feel better.


Pretty sure Corbin and O’Sullivsn aren’t. Let’s be honest about all the coaches you discussed, ok?
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They haven't been a head coach as long as he has so its not comparable.

So what? They still haven’t won anything right?
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McDonnell is at the peak of his career and hasn't won anything and won't win anything.

It took Tim Corbin 12 years to “win anything.” It took O’Sullivan 10. McDonnell has been at Louisville 13 years. To go a little further back, it took Pat Casey 11 years. It took Ray Tanner 23 years.
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I don't think coaching 3 or 4 years with him out of a total of 10 years as an assistant makes him a clone but whatever makes you feel better.

Then what exactly makes someone a clone? You clearly seem to think McDonnell is a Mainieri clone for whatever idiotic reason you’ve come up with to justify it.
This post was edited on 5/28/21 at 12:27 am
Posted by tiger25
Alabama
Member since Nov 2009
2246 posts
Posted on 5/28/21 at 12:43 am to
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Pretty sure Corbin and O’Sullivsn aren’t. Let’s be honest about all the coaches you discussed, ok?


You were the one that brought both of these coaches up in the first place dumbass. I have been strictly talking about hiring younger coaches and I mentioned that if I had to pick an older coach I would pick O'Sullivan over McDonnell.

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It took Tim Corbin 12 years to “win anything.” It took O’Sullivan 10. McDonnell has been at Louisville 13 years. To go a little further back, it took Pat Casey 11 years. It took Ray Tanner 23 years.


That's cool. McDonnell still isn't going to win anything.

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You clearly seem to think McDonnell is a Mainieri clone for whatever idiotic reason you’ve come up with to justify it.


PM: 6 CWS appearances with 1 NC with a total record of 10-12 in Omaha
McDonnell:5 CWS appearances 0 NCs with a total record of 4-10.

So my apologies he's actually worse then PM.
Posted by Mobiletiggah
Mobile Alabama
Member since Mar 2021
3240 posts
Posted on 5/28/21 at 5:46 am to
Agreed. That is totally what I see. This year is an anomaly with teams having 5th and 6th year players. Even with all the upperclassmen LSU was an eyelash away from winning that series in Tennessee …on the road. Experienced players won them those games.
Posted by Mobiletiggah
Mobile Alabama
Member since Mar 2021
3240 posts
Posted on 5/28/21 at 5:50 am to
Sooo how many years will his teams suck here before the building starts to become apparent?
Posted by Adam4848
LA
Member since Apr 2006
19426 posts
Posted on 5/28/21 at 5:51 am to
Who do you want?

Why is no one answering my question
Posted by Adam4848
LA
Member since Apr 2006
19426 posts
Posted on 5/28/21 at 5:54 am to
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Sooo how many years will his teams suck here before the building starts to become apparent?


He built TCU into a juggernaut, brought Arkansas roster from good to great, took Tennessee from literally the cellar in the east to winning the division in 3 years.

Admit you don’t know what you’re talking about.

Fun fact: Tennessee has not won a single SECT game in 14 years. Is it the seniors you say?
This post was edited on 5/28/21 at 5:56 am
Posted by 3rdPart Tiger
Member since Oct 2007
6443 posts
Posted on 5/28/21 at 6:03 am to
Our fans are going to shite on whomever we hire, be it Vitello, O’Sullivan, McDonnell, or Godwin.

That’s a damn fine list, whichever way we go, but I’m hoping for the guy with the most upside. That’s Vitello.
Posted by TravisBRTiger
Member since Nov 2020
2346 posts
Posted on 5/28/21 at 6:38 am to
If we hire Vitello, we have his whole career...who would leave LSU for anywhere else? He's an ace recruiter, motivator, and best of all, apparently, WANTS THE LSU JOB!!! He helped to build TCU and Arkansas rosters into perennial Omaha contenders. Yes, you are banking on his trajectory trending up, but remember the HTR documentary. Skip came here after taking Miami to Omaha once, and realizing that he wouldn't take over in Coral Gables. Skip was hired on potential. Give Vitello a chance...NOT saying he'll be Skip, but his talent evaluation is elite and he gets the most out of them, as opposed to our current coach.
Posted by Adam4848
LA
Member since Apr 2006
19426 posts
Posted on 5/28/21 at 6:40 am to
He will win a title somewhere, I hope it's with LSU.
Posted by Forty Arpent
New Orleans
Member since Feb 2014
640 posts
Posted on 5/28/21 at 6:42 am to
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Vitello has been building TN for a couple of years. Very impressed with his team and their never say die attitude. Guy is young and hungry and would crawl to BR. I say go get him.



I hope we get him but where is the confidence coming from, has he mentioned LSU as a place he'd like to coach?
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