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re: A QB Who Can Run Will Cause RBs to Be More Productive

Posted on 10/1/11 at 11:22 pm to
Posted by Boh
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Posted on 10/1/11 at 11:22 pm to
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That said, LSU will need JJ at times in the games coming up and it is nice to have him back.

I agree. As long as JJ doesn't throw as much when he comes in (unless his turnovers from last season don't happen again), we should be fine.

JJ had 10 picks in 13 games last year, and so far Lee has 1 in 5 games. That has played a huge role in the offense's success IMO.

Hopefully with a week of prep with all hands on deck (hopefully Ware is OK) we can handle Florida on the ground.
Posted by LSU77
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Posted on 10/1/11 at 11:26 pm to
A QB who can THROW the football is better than a QB who can run ! This is a stupid thread.
Posted by la_birdman
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Posted on 10/1/11 at 11:29 pm to
I can't believe no one has brought this kid up!

Granted, he hasn't played much but there is a RB that can pass the ball. Well.

And I'm not talking about Ware.
Posted by Boh
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 10/1/11 at 11:31 pm to
Wasn't Magee a QB in hs?
Posted by just me
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Posted on 10/1/11 at 11:32 pm to
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JJ had 10 picks in 13 games last year, and so far Lee has 1 in 5 games. That has played a huge role in the offense's success IMO.
Jefferson only had 2 picks in his five games in 2009. He also only had 2 picks in his last five games in 2010.

His WV and October games last year were really pretty bad.

Thank God that's behind him.

This post was edited on 10/1/11 at 11:41 pm
Posted by Geaux2002
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 10/1/11 at 11:32 pm to
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LSU averaged a half yard more on each rush last year than its averaging this year.


A testament to the rushing abilities of Ridley. It also had to do with playcalling more than anything. We were running a ton of read option last season as well as option. We are passing more this year and didn't have guys like Russell Shepard for the first 3 games. Shep just got back.

OL last year was also stronger than this year with Josh D out and replaced by T-Bob/Hurst.

So, you are going to count an established offense and cherry pick JJ's best stretch and compare it to a new offense with a QB getting the starting reps only the week before the season started?

LSU was a better rushing team last year, but a better passing team this season.

The difference per play this year is 0.1 yards per play compared to last year, but LSU has less turnovers is averaging nearly 10 more points a game.
This post was edited on 10/1/11 at 11:34 pm
Posted by just me
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Posted on 10/1/11 at 11:33 pm to
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A QB who can THROW the football is better than a QB who can run ! This is a stupid thread.
All of LSU's QBs can throw the ball.
Posted by LSUlunatic
Member since Dec 2006
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Posted on 10/1/11 at 11:33 pm to
An offense without the capacity to pass the ball, however, serves as a detriment to the run.

Jefferson threw 4 passing TDs last season and had one of the worst passer ratings in all of college football. Additionally, our offense as a whole ranked in the bottom 20 of all offenses in the country.

Unfortunately, his inability to effectively pass the football and manage the game undermines whatever light his legs could ever shed on the scoreboard.
Posted by la_birdman
Northern GA via Lake Charles
Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 10/1/11 at 11:34 pm to
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Wasn't Magee a QB in hs?



We have a winner!!


He won the state championship last year. Look at this, the stats are INSANE:

Led his team to a 14-1 record and the 2010 Louisiana 4A State Championship ... Named Franklinton's Outstanding Player of the Game following the championship game ... Threw for 203 yards and two scores and added 126 rushing yards in 2010 state title game
This post was edited on 10/1/11 at 11:35 pm
Posted by Ryno_Kill
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 10/1/11 at 11:35 pm to
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Thank God that's behind him.


Well that settles it then! Nothing but facts in this thread.
Posted by Boh
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 10/1/11 at 11:38 pm to
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Threw for 203 yards and two scores and added 126 rushing yards in 2010 state title game

Impressive... he did look capable at times today.

Maybe Miles is saving that for Bama

No more RS, might as well go balls out for a ship
Posted by la_birdman
Northern GA via Lake Charles
Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 10/1/11 at 11:41 pm to
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Impressive... he did look capable at times today.

Maybe Miles is saving that for Bama

No more RS, might as well go balls out for a ship




I agree, man. That is a huge weapon.

Pull out all the stops to go to the ship.
Posted by OLDBEACHCOMBER
Member since Jan 2004
7529 posts
Posted on 10/1/11 at 11:42 pm to
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About 20 more ypg through the air so far this year


I did quick math but a little over 50 more yds per game. though Lee didn't play much in the last half on the ULM game.

FYI JJ fail to pass for more than 50 yard in three games last year, breaking 50 once by 1 yard and breaking 100 3 times. a 254 yard game against Ol Miss i think helped his average.
I do have to say, to be fair our receivers play the last 3 years has been very questionable. Either not playing well due to lack of confidence in the passer our lack of ability.
Posted by Boh
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Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 10/1/11 at 11:45 pm to
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I do have to say, to be fair our receivers play the last 3 years has been very questionable.

Randle's talent shines through regularly, even though he has made a couple uncharacteristic mistakes this season.

I don't know how the players feel about Billy Gonzales, but that cat has not improved our WR play since he arrived
Posted by Geaux2002
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 10/1/11 at 11:48 pm to
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I did quick math but a little over 50 more yds per game. though Lee didn't play much in the last half on the ULM game.


It's actually only 21.4 more yards/game passing this season, but there have been more drops this year.

Per play average is about the same at 5.2 (2011) and 5.2 (2010)
Posted by OLDBEACHCOMBER
Member since Jan 2004
7529 posts
Posted on 10/1/11 at 11:49 pm to
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It's actually only 21.4 more yards/game passing this season, but there have been more drops this year.


Did you check JJ stats or team stats?
Posted by just me
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Posted on 10/1/11 at 11:49 pm to
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A testament to the rushing abilities of Ridley.
You honestly believe that Ridley was that much of a better runner than Ware or Ford?


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It also had to do with playcalling more than anything. We were running a ton of read option last season as well as option.
So you're saying a running QB helps a team to gain more rushing yards. Isn't that the point of the OP?

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We are passing more this year and didn't have guys like Russell Shepard for the first 3 games. Shep just got back.
LSU had more running plays in September 2011 than it had in September, October, or November of 2010. However, it had more yards per carry in each month of 2010 than it had in September 2011.

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So, you are going to count an established offense and cherry pick JJ's best stretch and compare it to a new offense with a QB getting the starting reps only the week before the season started?
I compared the whole year. I also compared Jefferson's last five games and Lee's last five games. Remember, defenses get better too.
Posted by just me
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Posted on 10/1/11 at 11:50 pm to
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Thank God that's behind him.
Well that settles it then! Nothing but facts in this thread.
The month of October 2010 is not behind him?

Are not 2008 and 2009 behind Lee?
Posted by just me
Front of the Class: Schooling You
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Posted on 10/1/11 at 11:51 pm to
Magee was a damn stud in 2010. FACT!
Posted by Boh
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 10/1/11 at 11:52 pm to
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Per play average is about the same at 5.2 (2011) and 5.2 (2010)

The yardage averages are telling, but what's most important obviously is points.

According to ESPN's stats, we averaged 29.4 ppg in 2010. This year, it's 38. It's probably skewed because we've had 3 D/ST touchdowns this season, and a Honey Badger run back to the 1 that led to 7 points, but we also had some of that last season.
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