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re: 4 loss season = the axe??

Posted on 6/28/10 at 7:01 pm to
Posted by MrPackSix
Lakeview/God's Country
Member since Oct 2009
8220 posts
Posted on 6/28/10 at 7:01 pm to
If Miles is given the axe (which i think is doubtful) and i have my choice of replacements then id go Gary Patterson out of TCU. His defenses are always top notch and he could bring that intensity this team has been lacking as of late

Also wouldnt mind a Butch Davis if he wants a change of scenery. With all that he's done w/ UNC plus give him a huge budget, top notch facilities, and our recruiting ties and he could take us places
Posted by TGFN57
Telluride
Member since Jan 2010
6975 posts
Posted on 6/28/10 at 7:26 pm to
No chance in hell. None. Only a losing season would even promt the axe to be taken off the shelf as a threat.
Posted by just me
Front of the Class: Schooling You
Member since Mar 2006
34489 posts
Posted on 6/28/10 at 7:46 pm to
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We've lost to Florida, Alabama and Ole Miss for two years running. If we don't win against at least two of those teams AND there are four losses, I think the ball gets rolling for a replacement. Consistently losing to top opponents seems a pretty good indicator to me that your coach is getting out coached given the talent level of our team.
Our talent is pretty even with Bama and Florida. If we lose to Bama and Florida again this year AND lose to UNC and a bowl opponent, I don't think it will be a ripple on the water. In addition, if we lose to Bama and Florida again this year AND lose to UNC and Arky but win our bowl, I don't think it will be a ripple on the water.
Posted by Doc Fenton
New York, NY
Member since Feb 2007
52698 posts
Posted on 6/28/10 at 8:45 pm to
Only if LSU is 4-4 in SEC play for the regular season. If one of the 4 losses comes OOC or from a post-season game, then Miles will keep his job.
Posted by higgins
flowery branch, ga
Member since Dec 2009
7918 posts
Posted on 6/28/10 at 9:26 pm to
4 losses and ill help him pack. and dont give me any shite about tough schedule, young/developing quarterback. the play clock will also remain displayed in minutes and seconds. so miles has another year under his belt to adust to the non-big 12 metric play clock.the s.e.c. will also keep the 3 timeouts per half rule, as well as stopping the clock after any change of possession.what if florida lost 4? they have a tough schedule and young qb. im sick of mediocrity and excuses. get it done, les!
Posted by Gus Tinsley
NW LA.
Member since May 2008
3512 posts
Posted on 6/28/10 at 9:28 pm to
Another useless, meaningless, Miles thread with the same answer.....NO!!!!
Posted by Doc Fenton
New York, NY
Member since Feb 2007
52698 posts
Posted on 6/28/10 at 9:35 pm to
I understand the sentiment, but it's just really difficult to fire a coach who just went 5-3 in the SEC. Even unforgiving Gator fans waited until the Zooker went 4-4 in 2004 before giving him the boot.

Now some may point to Ray Perkins leaving Bama after a 4-2 SEC record in '86, or Bill Curry leaving after a 6-1 SEC record and conference title in '89, but neither one was technically fired, and Bama in the 1980s was really a whole other universe.
Posted by tigerskin2006
BATON ROUGE
Member since Jul 2006
529 posts
Posted on 6/28/10 at 9:39 pm to
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4 loss season = the axe??


Why ? Justify the reason ? lil nicky lost 4 games his last year at LSU and 5 before the year we won the National Championship ?
Posted by TigerMyth36
River Ridge
Member since Nov 2005
41519 posts
Posted on 6/28/10 at 9:41 pm to
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IMO yes. Will it have alot to do with how we lose? I'm actually rooting for him FWIW, but alas if he loses four I think the machine will be started.



I honestly don't know how you get through the day. Does someone remind you to breathe?

4 losses doesn't even get him a whiff of being fired.

Posted by Doc Fenton
New York, NY
Member since Feb 2007
52698 posts
Posted on 6/28/10 at 9:42 pm to
LSU has had a winning SEC record in 10 of the last 11 seasons (tied for best in the conference). It's not acceptable to be at .500 in conference play. It wouldn't be for UF or Bama, and it shouldn't be for us either.
Posted by tigerpawl
Can't get there from here.
Member since Dec 2003
22628 posts
Posted on 6/28/10 at 9:44 pm to
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4 loss season = the axe??
First of all, it will be a 6 loss season. Secondly, he still won't get the axe. He'll ride his contract into the sunset...

Alleva is light in the testicle department. He comes from a school immersed in Basketball and Lacrosse. Football is a second language to him.
Posted by tigerpawl
Can't get there from here.
Member since Dec 2003
22628 posts
Posted on 6/28/10 at 9:47 pm to
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That would mean his 6 season record would be 60-19(76%} with 6 bowls, 2 west titles, SEC title, 5 ranked teams out of 6, and a NC in 07.

This is just me wondering, but how many coaches in our 100+ years of football have ever equaled the above?
What have you done for me lately...

Last 2 years vs. AL, FL, AR and MS = 1-7. The graveyard is full of people who couldn't be replaced.
Posted by Hitchcock
Member since Oct 2008
2889 posts
Posted on 6/28/10 at 9:52 pm to
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I understand the sentiment, but it's just really difficult to fire a coach who just went 5-3 in the SEC. Even unforgiving Gator fans waited until the Zooker went 4-4 in 2004 before giving him the boot.


did zook ever have a better record than 8-5 at UF?
Posted by Doc Fenton
New York, NY
Member since Feb 2007
52698 posts
Posted on 6/28/10 at 9:57 pm to
No, but he was 16-8 in SEC games.

Going 1-5 against the Canes and Noles, and losing Outback Bowls against Michigan & Iowa, is what sealed his doom.
Posted by ottothewise
Member since Sep 2008
32094 posts
Posted on 6/28/10 at 10:13 pm to
no. no ax for 4 L's.

Presently the spread in Vegas is LSU losing 5 games.

They are dogs to FLORIDA, Bama, North Carolina, Arkansas and Auburn. Florida and Bama are big spreads. Ark is 6 pts.

Also, persons in full possession of their faculties will observe that the schedule is ranked 10th most difficult in the USA.
Aside from that, there are a few very good teams on the
schedule: BAMA #1, Florida #5, Ark #14, in preseason polls. Since LSU is #22 in these polls and NC is #15, LSU is a dog to 4 higher rated teams, and to one on the road, Auburn.


If LSU goes 10-2, it will be a very good coaching job by the whole staff.
11-1 or 12-0 and it will be a great coaching job by the whole staff.


This post was edited on 6/28/10 at 10:15 pm
Posted by 81Tiger
LSU Alumnus
Member since Sep 2009
6846 posts
Posted on 6/28/10 at 10:34 pm to
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4 loss season = the axe??


If they are Ole Miss, brain-dead type losses, then the axe should be sharpened!
Posted by Hot Carl
Prayers up for 3
Member since Dec 2005
62670 posts
Posted on 6/28/10 at 10:37 pm to
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Also wouldnt mind a Butch Davis if he wants a change of scenery.


Jesus Christ, another one


quote:

With all that he's done w/ UNC



and what all is that, exactly?


eta--And no chance 4 losses gets Les fired. 6 might, though.
This post was edited on 6/28/10 at 10:39 pm
Posted by Lonnie4LSU
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2008
9525 posts
Posted on 6/28/10 at 10:51 pm to
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The graveyard is full of people who couldn't be replaced


How many NC coaches resting in your graveyard who were put there 3 years after winning said NC while they continued to win 9 games a season, go to major bowls, and have a top 20 ranked team?

Like it or not, like Miles or not, but when he won that NC in 07 he separated himself from bout 99% of his peers and in doing so he made it virtually impossible to release him before the end of his contract unless he pulls a Tiger Woods or something. imo

Posted by Factsman
Badstreet USA
Member since Oct 2008
12229 posts
Posted on 6/28/10 at 11:36 pm to
if we go 6-6, he is gone

i think we go 8-3, inspite of the staff
Posted by HuRRiCaNe MiLeS
Bossier City
Member since Jan 2010
8153 posts
Posted on 6/28/10 at 11:39 pm to
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That would mean his 6 season record would be 60-19(76%} with 6 bowls, 2 west titles, SEC title, 5 ranked teams out of 6, and a NC in 07.

Wow, you really are something aren't you. One sec title in 6 years is impressive? Being ranked 5 times out of 6 times is impressive? What separates mediocre and success with you positards. I bet you thought 2008 was a success.
This post was edited on 6/28/10 at 11:41 pm
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