re: 2011 1 Loss LSU vs 2 undefeated BCS teams

Usually I would disagree but 2011 could be different because after 5 National championships some voters might want to keep an sec team out.

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Any thoughts?

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yes, it's January


maybe we can get thru Spring and then start bringing this up?

just a thought

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Im saying who knows what these guys vote on...look at the heisman voting...someone had newton at last...

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What do you mean last? I think they only vote for 3. Some left him off their ballots I'm sure because they think he "cheated" or what ever. (Ever see Baseball Hall of Fame ballots? There are idiots that will not vote for anyone.) Anyway, that's why these things are a consensus, so one idiot with an agenda doesn't corrupt the whole process. Some left Newton off their Heisman ballot, but he still won because the vast majorty will vote based on merit and not their own feelings or agenda's.

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Not everyone is against the SEC but you would be surprised how many people are

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well, we are not talking about just people, but professional sports journalists and coaches. They are the ones that vote in the polls and yes, I would be very surprised if there were many that hated the SEC and would jeopardize their professional credibility over it. There will always be outliers, maybe that have an agenda, maybe they just want to be different, but the consenus will take care of that. A 1 loss SEC proabably will be behind most undefeated teams, but not because the voters don't want the SEC to win again, but rather because they have a loss. Using 2010 as an example a 1 loss Auburn would certainly have been behind Oregon and most likely TCU, but I don't think they would have fallen further than #3. At #3, there is a good chance they move ahead of #2 TCU in the BCS standings thanks to the computers. Now maybe they would have fallen furhter than #3, but I do not believe its because "voters" don't want an SEC team in the title (in the case of AU, there is a possiblilty the allegations re Netwon would have pushed them down).

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.Do you think a kid from a small college that accepted a bribe would have been such a big deal

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define small school? Did you see the ESPN 30 for 30 about SMU? They weren't a big time program before that. If some allegations arose about Boise or TCU, you bet those would be reported. But its not limited to the SEC, see USC and Ohio State. There's a lot of dirt in CFB and the SEC.

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there will aways be those "haters" that do extensive research on the bigger name......for example kobe bryant, tiger woods...the biggest names so they are investigated more than the typical person even though alot more than we know do it

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so you are saying people do more investigating on famous people than on joe blow? Why would anyone care if H-Town Tiger was cheating on his wife? (I'm not married ftr). I don't care if Tiger was cheating on his, but its hardly surpring that a famous athlete gets investigated more than some one on one has heard of, especially if he's doing something salious.

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People want to see the SEC lose...because we are on top

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That does not mean the professional voters will intentional move an SEC team down, just to keep the SEC out of the BCS CG. If an SEC team, like LSU, goes undefeated in 2011, that team will be in the BCS CG. With 1 loss, it will depend on what happens. But if a Pac 12 and Big 12-2 teams go unbeaten those teams will deserve to be ahead of a 1 loss SEC team. The fact that "people" want to see the SEC lose will not be a factor.

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Why do SEC tards think everyone is against the SEC?

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I don't think voters hate the SEC, history says otherwise. I think that voters are just wating to be more fair to the non-AQs and other BCS schools. So I think a one loss SEC team would not be voted over an undefeated BCS or TCU/Boise St.

Yeah I live right by SMU and they were not a big program but they were and are very wealthy and the alumni there are some powerful people in the US.

The example of tiger was in part with the SEC...people (journalist, reporters) are going to dig down harder on the SEC because its a bigger story than something happening with any other conference right now.

I didn't mean that they have the power to keep us out of it but I was referring to how the Tennesee debacle hurt us in alot of peoples eyes and we got known as being overrated.....so when we had 1 loss us jumping tcu was in question on if that was right or not.....in alot of voters eyes it was not because of how the games were won (close)

Agreed if a pac 10, big 10 or big 12 team is undefeated no doubt they would go over a 1 loss sec team....If a pac 10, big 10 team or big 12 team go undefeated and LSU goes undefeated...LSU still goes.

Same goes with TCU...other than boise st I dont think its very strong and with the majority of their starters gone its not going to look as good for boise either.

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people (journalist, reporters) are going to dig down harder on the SEC because its a bigger story than something happening with any other conference right now.

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nah, they'd did just as hard if it was at Ohio State, OU, Miami etc.

But there is a story at Auburn.

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Do you think it was all about money that there was no questioning on if they would be able to play in the sugarbowl or not?

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or course it was about money. do you think if it Mallet he would have been out? No way.

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I bet they are out for 2 games max

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I was thinking 4, but what they did is not the same as the Netwon allegations. Stuff like that they will investigate thoroghly at any big program just ask USC.

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Stuff like that has been going on for a long time now, which is why I dont get why people act surprised

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i'm not sure who is surprised, certainly not any expirienced journalists.

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Another example is what OU did.

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well they had a couple of players take improper benefits from a booster and kicked them off the team, that's not the same as what is alleged to have taken place with Cecil Netwon